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Post by grimgryphon on Jul 14, 2015 20:51:24 GMT
Tell it like it is! Woo hoo!
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Post by templara on Jul 14, 2015 21:27:45 GMT
Link or didnt happen
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Post by grimgryphon on Jul 14, 2015 22:31:36 GMT
Already deleted. They even removed Budner's post and the rest of that part of the thread. And that fucktard Starr has the nerve to tell people on Steam they don't hide anything negative. What an ass and a liar. So I'm starting to wonder if they are also restricting negative discussion to pledges as well so they don't discourage new backers. I guess it's time to pony up $45 and create my spy.
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Post by Mordecai on Jul 14, 2015 23:38:45 GMT
I guess it's time to pony up $45 and create my spy. You're really willing to pay $45 just to spy on Port's forum? (4thelolz, that's your cue)
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Post by 4theLOLZ on Jul 15, 2015 2:34:38 GMT
I guess it's time to pony up $45 and create my spy. Christopher ur such a fockin plebeian... the fanboi crew doesn't need your social security check but your donations are appreciated. 5 dollaz just fur the forums... 45 dollaz so you can hab ur ebil troll false steam review. Then after you get banned from the forums or your false review gets removed or both if you pledge... Do it again... Rinse & repeat.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 15, 2015 3:42:14 GMT
5 dollaz just fur the forums... 45 dollaz so you can hab ur ebil troll false steam review. Then after you get banned from the forums or your false review gets removed or both if you pledge... Do it again... Rinse & repeat. Accurate.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 15, 2015 5:04:09 GMT
Caliya's post, #39 in that thread was deleted. It was a reply to Aldo.
Aldo said: I am on the same roller coaster. My feelings about the game, the mechanics, and etc. have been all over the place since I joined. I have decided to stick it out and make the best of it without losing hope for a game that suits my fancy in the end. If you decide not to stick it out, then let me be the first to ask: Can I have your stuff?
Caliya replied:
I had to laugh because this is what I saw happen in UO all the time, when people were so upset they left the game. Can I have your stuff? But seriously, posts of this nature, and all the others insulting Nemo are proving him right (unfortunately).
I mean, people are essentially saying, "Don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out." And I can truly understand that attitude. There's no problem with that attitude or the people who want naysayers to leave.
Where the problem exists: if someone that's been invested and committed to the game leaves, how many more out there are like him? Who don't post? Who left the forums long ago? And who will never invest more? And will never play the game precisely for the reasons Nemo outlined?
I mean, yes there is a community here that supports the game. It's a niche market and community. If the game succeeds for them, that's really great!
But I think the point is: it's not succeeding for a lot of people, and possibly too many people. And the game, if its reputation goes down, you won't get more funding for the future. So we all have a stake in the game, even the naysayers who invested.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 15, 2015 5:09:05 GMT
#44(at the time) also removed.
TonyPeaches: How many mansions do you have, and how much did you folks spend on your trips outside the atmosphere?
Caliya: What a person does in their personal lives does not necessarily have an effect on their business. I mean, look at Bill Cosby. Funny guy. Personal life, what a horror story. I mean, who would be listening to that guy all those years if they had known his personal life?
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Post by grimgryphon on Jul 15, 2015 5:15:03 GMT
We should see her here soon... :-)
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Post by Dewderonomy on Jul 15, 2015 15:38:25 GMT
I imagine she will end up like many and just stop participating in the forums, waiting for the game to launch, and then playing it offline or SPO/FPO. However, the game's entire model depends on community interaction, which outside of about 100-150 people, won't exist. That's not enough people to get folks interested in a game. There are UO freeshards with more active players interacting with one another.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 16, 2015 4:55:09 GMT
I imagine she will end up like many and just stop participating in the forums, waiting for the game to launch, and then playing it offline or SPO/FPO. However, the game's entire model depends on community interaction, which outside of about 100-150 people, won't exist. That's not enough people to get folks interested in a game. There are UO freeshards with more active players interacting with one another. Yup. This is also why I can see why kb is so upset about certain things. We were sold participation, and when some of us participated at full capacity what happened? Ignored due to a serious failure in the crowdfunding model or passed over for favourites who donate more and suck harder.
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Post by dodgy on Jul 16, 2015 5:39:49 GMT
Kb is dead on.
He shouldn't bash himself so hard.
*love*
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Post by grimgryphon on Jul 16, 2015 21:46:38 GMT
I imagine she will end up like many and just stop participating in the forums, waiting for the game to launch, and then playing it offline or SPO/FPO. However, the game's entire model depends on community interaction, which outside of about 100-150 people, won't exist. That's not enough people to get folks interested in a game. There are UO freeshards with more active players interacting with one another. Well, that's kind of where I'm at right now. I've got $800 into this so I guess a bit of offline or SPO will be a diversion when I'm sick of other games. I still wish I could sell my account, but I'm worried about doing that too soon. I'm wishing Port will fuck up somehow and there will be a cry for refunds. Hoping.
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Post by Dewderonomy on Jul 17, 2015 3:23:11 GMT
I imagine she will end up like many and just stop participating in the forums, waiting for the game to launch, and then playing it offline or SPO/FPO. However, the game's entire model depends on community interaction, which outside of about 100-150 people, won't exist. That's not enough people to get folks interested in a game. There are UO freeshards with more active players interacting with one another. Well, that's kind of where I'm at right now. I've got $800 into this so I guess a bit of offline or SPO will be a diversion when I'm sick of other games. I still wish I could sell my account, but I'm worried about doing that too soon. I'm wishing Port will fuck up somehow and there will be a cry for refunds. Hoping. I'm seriously wondering about the Kickstart/legal ramifications for the promised Episodes 2-3+ that will not happen. I mean, they might happen, but they won't be true expansions. They would be miniscule patches and some varied content to say, "See, here're your episodes" to avoid chargebacks and refunds and the like, but it'll be a double-edged sword with what few people they have left quitting in droves over lack of content. It's really going to be fun to watch this crash and burn.
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Post by Caliya on Jul 18, 2015 4:32:51 GMT
Hi everyone! Mordecai private messaged me on the SotA forums while all those posts were happening. So I decided to check out what's being said over here. I do not participate in any other forums and this is a rare appearance for me, but may become more.
Both that asshat Koldar and asshat Mystic have deleted at least a dozen of my posts in the last 3 days. The post that started this thread, yes it did happen and yes I did say that (and the others that got deleted). They are engaging in harassment to either make me leave or using my posts deletions to eventually ban me. There have been no reasons given to me, only that I was either "off topic" or "outdated information." I then asked them for clarification which information was outdated so I could know what was updated. They deleted that post too, saying it was off topic.
A post of mine that felt sorry for someone that had triple bypass surgery and told them I was sorry they had to go through that was deleted as "off topic."
A post of mine that joked with Budner (I was clearly joking) that I wanted to tell him to F off in the game was deleted as "off topic and inappropriate content" even though his post still stands, saying someone can come tell him to F off in the game.
I will probably get banned and join the rest of you here. But honestly, I really am probably going to leave the forum, as someone here predicted. It's just not worth my peace of mind.
Duchess Wildhair-up-her-a## seems to think just because she paid as much in the game as the cost of a car, entitles her to abuse anyone who disagrees with her, and her posts stand. I think her hormones are off, as she's out of control. So it's clear that everything I post, she's flagging as inappropriate. Poor little thing can't stand it when someone tells the truth and makes her scared the game will fail.
Most of those guys that are the most distasteful and nasty spirited are blocked to me, I don't even see their posts. They aren't worth my time.
The lack of ethics in that game development floors me. The greedy bastards are so busy counting their investments they don't even notice Portalarium is taking advantage of them too.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 18, 2015 4:59:14 GMT
Well said, happy to see another person out there who can see this but is still trying to at least make good points to the contrary on the home forum. Your voice of reason is always good to see there, but as you say may not be for long.
The moderators certainly have your ticket Caliya, and they will of course be fair with you... I mean Starr has just basically indicated anyone who doesn't agree with what they are doing is toxic, and shall be punished to the highest degree. What can we do?
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Post by Caliya on Jul 18, 2015 6:06:29 GMT
For the record, I am not a guy, I'm a married woman. My husband left the Shroud forums awhile ago. He doesn't even want to play the game anymore. Oh, and believe it or not, I never made a backup account on Shroud. Not that it matters now, with the $5 charge. I wouldn't give them another dime just to troll on another account.
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Post by So? on Jul 18, 2015 6:47:43 GMT
haha perfect addition. Welcome home.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 18, 2015 6:54:03 GMT
For the record, I am not a guy, I'm a married woman. My husband left the Shroud forums awhile ago. He doesn't even want to play the game anymore. Oh, and believe it or not, I never made a backup account on Shroud. Not that it matters now, with the $5 charge. I wouldn't give them another dime just to troll on another account. Can't remember if I ever said you had a wang, don't remember saying it though It will be interesting if real accounts start to come out of the woodworks though with real opinions... Especially when they get crushed and shat on by the rest of the forum like you do. So easy to see this coming.
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Post by dodgy on Jul 18, 2015 11:23:09 GMT
Hey Caliya
Welcome. Understand why people avoid the forum but we have also had some pro sota guys come over here and say their peace and we have actually agreed so while we are a bit rough around the edges we dont mindlessly eat anyone who comes and disagrees with us.
I found a respect for Mycello and while I dont agree with he/she (he made a good post about this was quite funny), I appreciate him defending it. Dialogue creates respect if both parties are open and honest.
Even Ravicus has the balls to come post here, so those guys are alright in my book despite out disagreements
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Post by Caliya on Jul 18, 2015 17:21:20 GMT
Hey Caliya Welcome. Understand why people avoid the forum but we have also had some pro sota guys come over here and say their peace and we have actually agreed so while we are a bit rough around the edges we dont mindlessly eat anyone who comes and disagrees with us. I found a respect for Mycello and while I dont agree with he/she (he made a good post about this was quite funny), I appreciate him defending it. Dialogue creates respect if both parties are open and honest. Even Ravicus has the balls to come post here, so those guys are alright in my book despite out disagreements Agreed. If everyone wasn't censored to hell, you might actually see meaningful dialog take place over at their forums. The moderators are so inept and make such bad decisions, they are partly responsible for causing a division in the forums. I see you guys in here slinging it out but I don't see the kind of vitriol here that I see there - at least not yet.
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Post by Caliya on Jul 18, 2015 17:22:05 GMT
For the record, I am not a guy, I'm a married woman. My husband left the Shroud forums awhile ago. He doesn't even want to play the game anymore. Oh, and believe it or not, I never made a backup account on Shroud. Not that it matters now, with the $5 charge. I wouldn't give them another dime just to troll on another account. Can't remember if I ever said you had a wang, don't remember saying it though It will be interesting if real accounts start to come out of the woodworks though with real opinions... Especially when they get crushed and shat on by the rest of the forum like you do. So easy to see this coming. Naw, you didn't say I had a wang. lol Someone else (can't remember who, but in another thread) called me a "he." It's all good.
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Post by Caliya on Jul 18, 2015 17:23:04 GMT
Btw, I like the title of Insane Carebear. Can I keep it? lol
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Post by hurrdurrrrrrrrrrr on Jul 18, 2015 17:32:31 GMT
Btw, I like the title of Insane Carebear. Can I keep it? lol INSULTS NOT TOLERATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111!!!!!!!!!!!11111111
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Post by 4theLOLZ on Jul 18, 2015 17:38:14 GMT
Give her the tttle "Insane cum guzzling bitch." iM appreciates that shit much better. As in IMs words, "Just bring a rag."
By the way insane cum guzzling bitch... The dumb shits just flat out delete threads when they get too out of hand... They've been owned on several fronts.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 18, 2015 18:32:44 GMT
By the way insane cum guzzling bitch... The dumb shits just flat out delete threads when they get too out of hand... They've been owned on several fronts. It is finnneeeee man, we've all done at at some point in our lives. It doesn't make you a homosexual so give it a try, I mean it isn't like buying a tree from the SotA store or anything!
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Post by Caliya on Jul 18, 2015 18:34:09 GMT
Btw, I like the title of Insane Carebear. Can I keep it? lol INSULTS NOT TOLERATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111!!!!!!!!!!!11111111 Right!!?? I mean, I can't even insult myself over there, they moderate and delete even those posts!
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Post by Dewderonomy on Jul 18, 2015 18:47:35 GMT
It really is amazing that they chased off a voice of reason. That isn't to say others weren't reasonable, but you never seemed to really attack any person's opinions or the staff aggressively like many of us. It's one thing to ostracize those voices, but when the fair and even voices of dissent are oppressed, every single "tinfoil hat" conspiracy theory of P2W, abusive mods/staff, and talks about this game never launching start to become more believable to outsiders.
As I've said before, they'll still get money from people who just don't know better, but with more and more people leaving, it won't take long for people to realize the reality.
Either way, welcome.
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Post by Caliya on Jul 18, 2015 19:50:06 GMT
It really is amazing that they chased off a voice of reason. That isn't to say others weren't reasonable, but you never seemed to really attack any person's opinions or the staff aggressively like many of us. It's one thing to ostracize those voices, but when the fair and even voices of dissent are oppressed, every single "tinfoil hat" conspiracy theory of P2W, abusive mods/staff, and talks about this game never launching start to become more believable to outsiders. As I've said before, they'll still get money from people who just don't know better, but with more and more people leaving, it won't take long for people to realize the reality. Either way, welcome. Thank you for the welcome! I've always tried my best to not attack character. Any decent moderator also knows this. But Envy, Gracekain (who now has other forum names), "Duchess" Wyld(something or other), Drocis and some others, regularly attack my character and get away with it. Because the mods want them to do it, those posts remain. I'm not always level headed and yes I've gotten mad. But the posts they've been deleting recently were not even attacking staff or ideas. It was questioning their funding model. When many of us started using the industry-term "whale" the ones who know they're damn well guilty, started crying to their moms that I accused them of being terrible people. Now they'll ban the word whale, as they also banned carebear, land barons, and bourgeois. In reality, it is not the fault of the whales for their own obscene behavior. Portalarium created those monsters.
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Post by 4theLOLZ on Jul 19, 2015 2:28:11 GMT
When many of us started using the industry-term "whale" lol, bitch... You are a whale.
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