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Post by myrcello on Feb 10, 2016 18:28:59 GMT
If i had discussions with Baron he did the following tricks with me trying to get me to get emotional.
Responding often out of context of the main purpose of my argument.
Example I say: The Press is writting negative about SotA and i just can't stand this happy dancing on Events ignoring what is happening.
Baron responds : I find that Events take alot of work and it is not nice you disrespect the work of the most active community members creating those Events.
Myrcello: I was not talking about that. I did mean something else. Can't you read.
Baron: I can read Myrcello. Let us discuss with respect. It is not nice you attack me. Back to topic. You feel like that Events are not a main game feature and that they harm the Solo Community. I think blablba.. Bla bla
Myrcello : Back to my first argument. The Community creates a positive bubble they are living in ignoring the outside reality of how this game is being seen.
Baron: You are going Off Topic. This thread was about Events and the importance of them. I still feel it is not nice that you do not aknowledge the importance of them. The POT are important also in regards to those Events. You need to understand that Myrcello
Myrcello: What the fuck are you talking about!! I never positioned myself like that.
Mystic: This thread is locked for review.
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Post by calico on Feb 10, 2016 18:31:16 GMT
If i had discussions with Baron he did the following tricks with me trying to get me to get emotional. Responding often out of context of the main purpose of my argument. Example I say: The Press is writting negative about SotA and i just can't stand this happy dancing on Events ignoring what is happening. Baron responds : I find that Events take alot of work and it is not nice you disrespect the work of the most active community members creating those Events. Myrcello: I was not talking about that. I did mean something else. Can't you read. Baron: I can read Myrcello. Let us discuss with respect. It is not nice you attack me. Back to topic. You feel like that Events are not a main game feature and that they harm the Solo Community. I think blablba.. Bla bla Myrcello : Back to my first argument. The Community creates a positive bubble they are living in ignoring the outside reality of how this game is being seen. Baron: You are going Off Topic. This thread was about Events and the importance if them. I still feel it is not nice that you do not aknowledge the importance of them. The POT are important also in regards to those Events. You need to understand that Myrcello Myrcello: What the fuck are you talking about!! I never positioned myself like that. Mystic: This thread is locked for review. I could not have written that better myself, EVERY SINGLE TIME. I remember PoT threads where he did that extensively.
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Post by Caliya on Feb 10, 2016 18:36:34 GMT
Ya, he told me I needed to take Business 101.
Yes Drocis, we all know you are the mighty overseer of vast wealth and empires by wasting your money on digital goods.
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Post by Caliya on Feb 10, 2016 18:45:26 GMT
He acknowledges the problems surrounding the game, does his best to highlight them when necessary The only problems he acknowledges is when it is something that isn't in the game should be. One of his vast number of problems: POT NPCs. Yes Drocis, let's waste more development time. No problems with the rest of the game, let's just go for it!
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Post by calico on Feb 10, 2016 18:55:25 GMT
He acknowledges the problems surrounding the game, does his best to highlight them when necessary The only problems he acknowledges is when it is something that isn't in the game should be. One of his vast number of problems: POT NPCs. Yes Drocis, let's waste more development time. No problems with the rest of the game, let's just go for it! He only cares if affects him, not what it does to the game. I fear that he is spying on us here and trying to attribute us to posters on the forums that way to somehow descredit us. It's funny that they get things so wrong though.
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Post by Mordecai on Feb 10, 2016 20:13:36 GMT
You want proof that there are alts posting there? All you have to do is look at post counts and what they post also when they post. The higher backers have multiple accounts that's no lie and not even a stretch...you call it a conspiracy? I call it reality. If only you knew the great efforts to which I have gone to do exactly as you suggest. I've attempted to profile thousands of posts, identify and log writing styles, use alts to get close to people... hell, I've been a member of every major guild in SotA with one alt or another, and those are on the mild end of my efforts to determine alts (in all honesty I've probably gone to too great of lengths to determine who's who). I have many suspicions of people's alts, but without proper evidence, I'm not going to make up frivolous claims about people I dislike based on vague hunches. This isn't a matter of me calling it a conspiracy and you calling it a reality. It's not my word against yours. It's a matter of me objectively calling it uncertain, and you uncertainly asserting it as reality. Let's not lose sight of what we know, what we believe, and what we want to believe. We've taken to speculating about people we dislike, then backing our speculation up with further speculation, and then refuting disbelief with yet further speculation. For example: Posters like him are even worse due to the fact that they pretend to be listening and bury the knives in the spew of verbage. So many threads have been closed by him and his buddies. You can't claim to know that he merely pretends to listen, nor can you name a single thread that he subtly attacked and closed. You can't name his "buddies" that he is in league with because on all accounts, you are assuming, speculating, and presenting it all as fact. Which forum holds more animosity did you say? Per capita, this one, and by no small margin. From joking about people murdering their own children, to picking out people for how they look in real life, to alleged doxxing, to daily discussion of hated people, SotA has nothing on SU. Sure, maybe there is an evil network of SotA backers that secretly commits all the terrible things we speculate about, but such things are uncertain and unfounded. Our barbarisms on the other hand I know to be true.
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Post by calico on Feb 10, 2016 20:22:06 GMT
I could name the threads he got closed, but it wouldn't matter as they don't exist anymore, deleted and gone. We just saw one, the kickstarter backers opinions one, do me a favor and have a look at it on the main forums. Let me know if you think he did something.
The doxxing happened...that isn't even in question is it?
IT's hard to see you here in any other way then to pretend to have issues and report back to your friend, sorry.
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Post by Caliya on Feb 10, 2016 20:24:50 GMT
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Post by myrcello on Feb 10, 2016 20:30:34 GMT
I do not think Mordecai is that way. Report to friend and such.
He stings and shows us a different perspective. And sometimes not nice. But only way to stay open and not become one sided.
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Post by Mordecai on Feb 10, 2016 21:01:09 GMT
He stings and shows us a different perspective. And sometimes not nice. But only way to stay open and not become one sided. Emphasis on the sting here. I could name the threads he got closed, but it wouldn't matter as they don't exist anymore, deleted and gone. No, you couldn't, even with IM's vast vault of deleted threads. You could speculate, but clearly you've come to take your own assumptions far too seriously. There is NO substantial evidence in any of them that a particular person or group was actively working to close them. You're become so enamored with your assumptions that you take them as truth. The moderation is famously troubled. How can you distinguish between bad moderation and secret thread closing conspiracies? You talk about it like it's obvious- "just look at the threads" you say, but frankly you're uncertain. The doxxing happened...that isn't even in question is it? Who's to say that we doxxed the SotA victims? Similarly, who's to say that IM was doxxed by a SotA person? We assume, "Oh it must have been all the devs we hate most because we hate them so much (brilliant reasoning on par for SU)," and like a mirror of our own foolishness, the devs assume the same thing about us and then ban AvatarAcid for doxxing. IT's hard to see you here in any other way then to pretend to have issues and report back to your friend, sorry. You've taken to accusing me of being a spy, as if I might be able to report something important back about this public forum. Stop speculating for just a minute, please. And Caliya, I appreciate the cute snarky remark, but it doesn't fit the forum. It seems more akin to the subtle methods you criticize SotA people for using. You, Caliya, cannot see that you are among the greatest haters, outmatched only by Templar and a very small handful of SotA posters. In rebelling against those who you felt acted cruel to you, you have become a crueler poster than they could have ever dreamed of, what with your SU freedom to say whatever you please. The freedom to be cruel is not a reason to do so. The hypocrisy is out of control, and the fact that only a handful of posters see it is disturbing.
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Post by calico on Feb 10, 2016 21:26:29 GMT
Seriously.
Well mordecai you got us, nothing was done wrong over ther by anyone. Baron is the greatest guy misunderstood because he fights for the common man.
I'm done this silly circuler. You want to argue your beliefs find someone else.
The fact that I don't think the devs and them are in cahoots, but I think they have it down to an art to get a thread locked. It always happens the same way, not noticed of course.
Good luck to you.
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Post by zincturtle on Feb 10, 2016 21:43:51 GMT
Setting aside licking the poison frog for a moment..
When checking out a new game, I go to their forums. I go to the general discussion sub forum. Then I see how many threads have received posts/updates in the past day, week, month, or year. If possible, I'll also use the "latest posts" search query, if there is one.
Then I rank it. If the entire first page of the general discussion forum/what's new/latest posts is from today (or less) this is an active game with a healthy population. If the entire first page results is from this week, check the other subforums. If they're all only a week or less... it's dodgy/risky. If it's a month or longer? Dead. (that is, less than 100-1000 active players total, only 10-100 concurrent players in game, daily)
It's never been wrong so far.
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Post by Caliya on Feb 10, 2016 21:54:12 GMT
Emphasis on the sting here. Thing is Mord, I don't feel a sting at all. I see a person that's pissed off that we tell the truth about your "friend." We can be silenced over at Shroud, and Drocis held beyond reproach there. But not here. And if you think you will silence me by calling me the worst hater, then you are no better than what we've said about Drocis. After your admission of multiple alts over at Sota, I have to wonder why. And why did IM do it? You are no better than anyone here. You just put on the "balanced, level headed" act. You aren't. At least I don't try to pretend I am.
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Post by Mordecai on Feb 10, 2016 22:25:22 GMT
I used to argue, sometimes passionately, at length about the merits of SU, with Baron F among many others. I was accused of everything from being a spy to a troll then too. It is frustrating, I admit, to be as incapable as I am at reaching you with my point, though I'm tempted to off-load responsibility for that shortcoming onto SotA and SU's polarized relationship. Well mordecai you got us, nothing was done wrong over ther by anyone. You have submitted (sarcastically) to a claim that never was mine. Can you genuinely have so grossly misinterpreted my point? I maintain faith in your capacity to determine my actual point, even if I don't expect you to reply to it. Just in case though, I've quoted my main point. Thing is Mord, I don't feel a sting at all. I see a person that's pissed off that we tell the truth about your "friend." We can be silenced over at Shroud, and Drocis held beyond reproach there. But not here. And if you think you will silence me by calling me the worst hater, then you are no better than what we've said about Drocis. After your admission of multiple alts over at Sota, I have to wonder why. And why did IM do it? You are no better than anyone here. You just put on the "balanced, level headed" act. You aren't. At least I don't try to pretend I am. I'm not trying to sting you Caliya, just to get through the thickness of your certainty. I'm calling you the worst hater not to silence you, but so that you might reconsider the venom with which you discredit people. You want to know why I do my homework, since you're certain that it makes me no better than you? Here is why: I believe that both sides have become so strongly opposed to one another that they are incapable of fairly evaluating the other side, and I don't want to fall into that same pitfall. I don't like anybody being shit-talked, though I don't mind Drocis being shit-talked more so than anyone else. My writing has never been about how Drocis is a good person. In case you don't believe me (and in case you didn't actually read my posts): Mentioning and criticizing Baron F for his behavior in a relevant thread isn't the problem. Even getting carried away and making an entire thread page about how much we hate him is isn't the problem. That isn't ideal of course, but what really is deplorable here is making everything about a person to the point of redirecting on-topic posts back to mindless shit-talking just because the poster is friends with the person being shit-talked. I'm not saying that we can't shit-talk Drocis, call him "Fondle Balls," or whatever gets us off when he has relevance in a thread. I'm not even saying that we can't get side-tracked by our fervor and go off on tangents about how much of a dick we think he is. All I'm saying is that responding to an on-topic criticism of SotA with "well one of your friends doesn't feel that way" is petty, pointless, and entirely off-topic. [In other words, I don't want to argue about whether Drocis is good or bad. I merely want to be left out of it and respond to the thread topic.] Look at me objectively. Just look at that quote, and the response it received, and go from there. My issue here isn't that SotA can do no wrong (seriously calico?), nor is it that you're attacking my friend (c'mon Caliya, have faith in me). It's that someone came up to me, ignored what I said, and left a snide remark, as though I don't have a right to criticize SotA since I've not come to hate everyone there, as though I would respond submissively to being pulled into an argument. Yes, I am the only person here is who is friends with Drocis, but that doesn't mean that I'll be your token devil's advocate when you feel like hating on him. Surely you understand my perceived hypocrisy here? I feel that, because some of use dislike SotA players, we've come to commit the same behavior that we dislike them for. For example: I believe the holocaust was wrong, but I don't believe as the result of that belief that we should commit genocide against the germans.
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Post by zincturtle on Feb 10, 2016 22:32:35 GMT
Sorry Mordecai, BDF is the most poison community member I've seen in any online community in the past three years. I've said it before, but I'll say it again:
I've seen his type before, and it doesn't end well for him or the company supporting his actions. SotA is supporting him. He is supporting them. They're poisoning the well, together. Eventually, poison/toxic community members will let their obsession get the better of them. He will cross the line, and Port will have to drop him. But that's months or years away, and the poison continues to seep with every post he makes, driving away more customers, every day.
If he really is your friend, you should ask him to stop posting (even temporarily). It's not healthy, not for him, not for the community, and not for the game. I suspect he couldn't stop posting for even a month. And that's the point at which the veil should be lifted. (either on your eyes or his, depending on his reaction to the request)
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Post by calico on Feb 10, 2016 22:38:24 GMT
Sorry Mordecai, BDF is the most poison community member I've seen in any online community in the past three years. I've said it before, but I'll say it again: I've seen his type before, and it doesn't end well for him or the company supporting his actions. SotA is supporting him. He is supporting them. They're poisoning the well, together. Eventually, poison/toxic community members will let their obsession get the better of them. He will cross the line, and Port will have to drop him. But that's months or years away, and the poison continues to seep with every post he makes, driving away more customers, every day. If he really is your friend, you should ask him to stop posting (even temporarily). It's not healthy, not for him, not for the community, and not for the game. I suspect he couldn't stop posting for even a month. And that's the point at which the veil should be lifted. (either on your eyes or his, depending on his reaction to the request) I really don't think he can stop posting. I'm waiting for the rage post that will come sooner or later.
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Post by Caliya on Feb 10, 2016 22:48:32 GMT
(c'mon Caliya, have faith in me) I don't have faith in someone on the internet, sorry. If I see a quality in someone, like Drocis, I'm going to call him on it. You went off on calico because he associated you with your "friend." You could've just flipped some sarcasm back, but you took it upon yourself to severely lecture and insult us all. Good job. I've been insulted the most, of anyone in this forum, by people like Templara and even dodgy takes swipes at me. But I don't take him seriously. We love each other, as internet buddies. I even laughed a lot at Templara, but it was a struggle sometimes to listen to certain things he said or did irl. I still accepted him. If I could accept Templara, I could accept a dick like Drocis. But I won't allow myself to be in his path. He is toxic. You say you have multiple alts and examine writing styles, going to great efforts to do it. Maybe that's a lot of entertainment for someone wanting to know the "truth." But I don't know your motives, why you would invest that much time & energy into a bunch of players that you will not even play the game with since you don't own SotA. Yes, I can be harsh and won't let it go. I'm first to admit it. But if you had been around these forums more, you'd have seen how many times I've said "To be fair," and "I don't usually agree with so & so, but I do here." And why don't you count how many times I've insulted Drocis compared to others? And the amount of vitriol I have compared to others? I feel singled out by you often. The meme I posted about "can't see the haters" was meant to lighten the mood. But instead you trashed me, speculating I was trolling you. Good job. You really do need to calm down. You're always readily accepted into this community, even though you're friends with questionable personalities. I don't care who you hang with, but if you start behaving like them, and telling us that person is beyond reproach, that won't fly with me.
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Post by Mordecai on Feb 10, 2016 23:09:05 GMT
I really don't think he can stop posting. I'm waiting for the rage post that will come sooner or later. You're right about one thing. I'm 700+ posts deep and won't be stopping any time soon. However, I won't come to e-blows with you, so you wait in vain. I only seek to understand you and to impart an understanding of me in you. I don't have faith in someone on the internet, sorry. If I see a quality in someone, like Drocis, I'm going to call him on it. No need to apologize. Your caution is admirable, and I respect you acting on what you see and telling it as you see it. I am very much the same way in that regard. You went off on calico because he associated you with your "friend." Did I really "go off on him" though, or did I just write a lengthy reply? Baron F is my friend, yes. We disagree on things, and agree to disagree as well. On some subjects, we see eye to eye. What purpose does pointing out that he doesn't understand my post serve? How much do you really know about what he understands anyway? Caliya is quick to like your post because she shares with you a distaste of him (although she can be very civil, she gets off to people attacking people she dislikes), but have you never befriended someone who didn't entirely agree with you about everything? I know Baron F is a sort of SU celebrity, the likes of which we can't ever stop talking about, but is it necessary to derail a thread just because a friend of his posted something? To that, Calico explained why he honestly dislikes Baron F. I respect his honesty, but by defending his distaste for BDF, he was erecting a straw man, fighting an argument that I never made. I've no issue with a criticism or rowdy discussion. This is SU afterall. My concern was that, without even remotely mentioning Drocis, I was being singled out solely because I get along with him, and had been pulled into an argument about whether or not we should dislike BDF. Even despite that, civil discourse ensued up until: All I'm saying is that responding to an on-topic criticism of SotA with "well one of your friends doesn't feel that way" is petty, pointless, and entirely off-topic. Pissed ya off, eh? And yet now, when it's convenient for us, we completely reverse our standards based entirely on subjective feelings: since we dislike Drocis, we can act like 4thelolz toward him and that doesn't make us trolls, but (and here's the kicker) speaking kindly of him, or in this case, merely being known to like him, designates a person as a troll. Maybe you need to take a long walk and cool down. These are classic methods of undermining someone's legitimacy. Add that to the "I'm waiting for the rage post that will come sooner or later," and it becomes clear that those who have accused me of antagonizing have committed to the same behavior. This is the kind of irony I've been arguing that we ought to avoid. Even so, my response was hardly an "insult." It was long sure, but not disrespectful or insulting. You could've just flipped some sarcasm back, but you took it upon yourself to severely lecture and insult us all. Good job. In my experience, my sarcasm is most often received as insulting, which is why I was honest and straightforward. I understand you taking insult to being called "The Worst Hater", but I called you as much because A) you have written very cruel things about people (with little purpose) and because B) I know you well enough to know that you're a great person who is largely above that sort of thing. I respect your caution, but all the same, I have faith in you and many of the people I meet on the Internet, and I am unwilling to accept that we have to treat the SotA community like they treat us.
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Post by calico on Feb 10, 2016 23:11:52 GMT
I really don't think he can stop posting. I'm waiting for the rage post that will come sooner or later. You're right about one thing. I'm 700+ posts deep and won't be stopping any time soon. However, I won't come to e-blows with you, so you wait in vain. I only seek to understand you and to impart an understanding of me in you. I don't have faith in someone on the internet, sorry. If I see a quality in someone, like Drocis, I'm going to call him on it. No need to apologize. Your caution is admirable, and I respect you acting on what you see and telling it as you see it. I am very much the same way in that regard. You went off on calico because he associated you with your "friend." Did I really "go off on him" though, or did I just write a lengthy reply? Baron F is my friend, yes. We disagree on things, and agree to disagree as well. On some subjects, we see eye to eye. What purpose does pointing out that he doesn't understand my post serve? How much do you really know about what he understands anyway? Caliya is quick to like your post because she shares with you a distaste of him (although she can be very civil, she gets off to people attacking people she dislikes), but have you never befriended someone who didn't entirely agree with you about everything? I know Baron F is a sort of SU celebrity, the likes of which we can't ever stop talking about, but is it necessary to derail a thread just because a friend of his posted something? To that, Calico explained why he honestly dislikes Baron F. I respect his honesty, but by defending his distaste for BDF, he was erecting a straw man. I've no issue with a criticism or rowdy discussion. This is SU afterall. My concern was that, without even remotely mentioning Drocis, I was being singled out solely because I get along with him, and had been pulled into an argument about whether or not we should dislike BDF. Even despite that, civil discourse ensued up until: Maybe you need to take a long walk and cool down. These are classic methods of undermining someone's legitimacy. Add that to the "I'm waiting for the rage post that will come sooner or later," and it becomes clearer who is antagonizing who. Even so, my response was hardly an "insult." It was long sure, but not disrespectful or insulting. You could've just flipped some sarcasm back, but you took it upon yourself to severely lecture and insult us all. Good job. In my experience, my sarcasm is most often received as insulting, which is why I took was honest and straightforward. I understand you taking insult to being called "The Worst Hater", but I called you as much because A) you have written very cruel things about people with little purpose and because B) I know you well enough to know that you're a great person who is largely above that sort of thing. I respect your caution, but all the same, I have faith in you and many of the people I meet on the Internet. Just a note, I wasn't talking about you...I was talking about the baron...nice to know you won't come to eblows with me though.
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Post by Mordecai on Feb 10, 2016 23:16:44 GMT
Just a note, I wasn't talking about you...I was talking about the baron...nice to know you won't come to eblows with me though. I merely was fooling you so that you would let your guard down... *e-blows* Seriously though, I know you weren't talking about me (or do you mean when you said "waiting for the rage"?). I was experiencing frustration at the fact that my posts had been misconstrued as a defense of BDF instead of a rejection of our lesser behaviors. What actually got under my skin the most was turtle's most recent post, since in it it was made clear that he genuinely believed that the point of my posting was to defend BDF. Until then I hadn't thought twice about the posts, but that post was the "FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-" moment.
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Post by Caliya on Feb 10, 2016 23:21:01 GMT
These are classic methods of undermining someone's legitimacy. At the SotA forum, they might be. But, if you have truly examined any of my posts, you would know I was trying to make you laugh and calm you down. That's what friends do.
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Post by calico on Feb 10, 2016 23:21:24 GMT
Just a note, I wasn't talking about you...I was talking about the baron...nice to know you won't come to eblows with me though. I merely was fooling you so that you would let your guard down... *e-blows* Seriously though, I know you weren't talking about me (or do you mean when you said "waiting for the rage"?). I was experiencing frustration at the fact that my posts had been misconstrued as a defense of BDF instead of a rejection of our lesser behaviors. What actually got under my skin the most was turtle's most recent post, since in it it was made clear that he genuinely believed that the point of my posting was to defend BDF. Until then I hadn't thought twice about the posts, but that post was the "FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-" moment. I meant the eventual fall of Baron when he rage posts and goes nuts for a bit.
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Post by Caliya on Feb 10, 2016 23:31:40 GMT
you have written very cruel things about people (with little purpose) All of us here have done that. Some posts, I find cringe worthy. Maybe it's because I'm female that it comes across as more cruel than others. <shrugs> Or maybe I'm just a bitch. (think IM thinks so anyway lol)
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Post by Caliya on Feb 10, 2016 23:33:25 GMT
rejection of our lesser behaviors Call me foolish, a hater, whatever, but sometimes it's nice to be able to revert to lesser behaviors. I also like to drink alcohol on occasion.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Feb 11, 2016 0:39:26 GMT
I'm already skirting the line by insulting RG, IM has turned kind of cold. This is actually more of a reflection of my current pain levels, but, story for a different time!
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Post by Mordecai on Feb 11, 2016 0:43:55 GMT
rejection of our lesser behaviors Call me foolish, a hater, whatever, but sometimes it's nice to be able to revert to lesser behaviors. I also like to drink alcohol on occasion. Says the woman who knows about my history. I don't disagree with you Caliya. I enjoy speaking without thinking, drinking, and other lesser behaviors. I know I've no place to white knight folks into polite discussion. It's just that I had thought that if I could convince people that they were acting like those that had reviled us, that maybe I could influence their behavior. Someone once said that the road to Novia is paved with backers' doll- erm, I mean hell is paved with good intentions.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Feb 11, 2016 0:46:19 GMT
I swear to Christ if one more person says this possibly didn't fucking happen...
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Feb 11, 2016 0:48:42 GMT
the devs assume the same thing about us and then ban AvatarAcid for doxxing. They didn't do this. They banned me for running a "hate site" and for posting "confidential" information.
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Post by Mordecai on Feb 11, 2016 1:52:45 GMT
I would have sworn that it was for the hate site and for doxxing. My mistake. Also, I'm not saying that the doxxing may not have happened, just that we can only allege who did it.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Feb 11, 2016 1:54:10 GMT
Why would they ban me for being doxxed?
I didn't dox anyone, so they couldn't ban me for anything related to the dox issue for any reason.
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