Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Dec 15, 2015 0:06:22 GMT
I have to hand it to Scottie. He made the gorgeous Hilt Fortress. I mean that in all sincerity. It reminds me of Skyrim.  But, what use is it? They should be throwing all their effort into so many basic systems, it seems they continue to focus on graphics rather than player animations, combat, crafting, and so many other things. It's not that I don't like the graphics, or that they won't be needed at all. But focusing so much money and effort on those finishing touches seems utterly useless at this stage. |
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Post by Bubonic on Dec 15, 2015 0:09:44 GMT
Having an artist fill out a level with extra details should not have any affect on other systems. A level designer has little to do with combat and the like.
And besides, they have gotten so much flack regarding their level of GFX quality, who can blame them for putting a bit more effort here?
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Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Dec 15, 2015 0:21:21 GMT
Having an artist fill out a level with extra details should not have any affect on other systems. A level designer has little to do with combat and the like. And besides, they have gotten so much flack regarding their level of GFX quality, who can blame them for putting a bit more effort here? I've never complained about their GFX quality, but rather, the actual player mechanics and models. They look horrible, not to mention weapons and armor. I realize it's different systems and developers. But throwing money at development of something when other things are screaming for improvement since day 1 is disturbing. |
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Post by titsup on Dec 15, 2015 0:56:51 GMT
Making the game look better is certainly better than what they currently have. I fear though that there will be some inconsistency. I would imagine towns/cities won't be able to get the love based on the challenges of making the game work they want functionally (completely interactive world, etc). This could lead to really disjointed quality from scene to scene.
I'm all for improvements anywhere they can make them to the game.
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Post by dewderonomy on Dec 15, 2015 1:05:02 GMT
And besides, they have gotten so much flack regarding their level of GFX quality, who can blame them for putting a bit more effort here? Except the fact that they spent a year and a half on POTs instead of fleshing out the actual game. They could have spent all that time making the actual game instead of just POTs. |
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Dec 15, 2015 1:58:15 GMT
I'm just as happy playing pixel art games as anything else so my opinion here is skewed. To Bubonic 's point though yeah they are taking flack from all areas from the younger visual based gamer generation that like a bunch of shiny objects and shaking keys. Making the game look better at this point has to be the only way they can possibly draw in new players. dewderonomy hit the nail on the head though. So so much POT crap, that is the real issue, time/project management. On the whole yeah, I'd like to see core game mechanics being worked on, they appear to be largely pushed aside. And lastly, yes, Hilt does look pretty good and is a nice change! |
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Post by titsup on Dec 15, 2015 2:32:27 GMT
The character animations that is a big sore point for me. I think they look horrendous and they should spend a significant amount of time improving them. All the lovely environments in the world will be wasted if the character you are looking at sticks out like a throbbing sore thumb. Visuals like the one above just make the character animations seem that much more out of place. Hopefully that (along with core game mechanics) is something the intend on working on significantly in the future.
I imagine, as Bubonic said, the artistic teams and the designers work in different circles. Its not as though an artist can up and move over and work on combat. Sure, we can argue over the money/time spent, but its water under the bridge now. If nothing else, it appears visually that some aspects of the game are changing for the better.
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Post by fossil on Dec 15, 2015 2:37:53 GMT
Having an artist fill out a level with extra details should not have any affect on other systems. A level designer has little to do with combat and the like. And besides, they have gotten so much flack regarding their level of GFX quality, who can blame them for putting a bit more effort here? Do you feel some need to start posting here now? Just curious... Personally I like when all you guys post here it makes us look less like trolls, not that we really are... but ya... |
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Dec 15, 2015 2:53:18 GMT
The more the merrier! Everyone's opinion is welcome, as long as it isn't a racial slur or some shit like that.
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Post by chodekiller on Dec 15, 2015 4:21:26 GMT
I have to hand it to Scottie. He made the gorgeous Hilt Fortress. I mean that in all sincerity. It reminds me of Skyrim. But, what use is it? They should be throwing all their effort into so many basic systems, it seems they continue to focus on graphics rather than player animations, combat, crafting, and so many other things. It's not that I don't like the graphics, or that they won't be needed at all. But focusing so much money and effort on those finishing touches seems utterly useless at this stage. Can't see shit. They always post what seems to be the same bland dungeon with a different name, just like all the "new" towns they do. It was interesting the first time, but its like they are rehashing work they did in the first year. |
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Dec 15, 2015 4:25:02 GMT
I have to hand it to Scottie. He made the gorgeous Hilt Fortress. I mean that in all sincerity. It reminds me of Skyrim. But, what use is it? They should be throwing all their effort into so many basic systems, it seems they continue to focus on graphics rather than player animations, combat, crafting, and so many other things. It's not that I don't like the graphics, or that they won't be needed at all. But focusing so much money and effort on those finishing touches seems utterly useless at this stage. Can't see shit. They always post what seems to be the same bland dungeon with a different name, just like all the "new" towns they do. It was interesting the first time, but its like they are rehashing work they did in the first year. Hey as long as it doesn't have any corporate logos in it, its a step in the right direction lol. |
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Post by Bubonic on Dec 15, 2015 5:38:02 GMT
Do you feel some need to start posting here now? Just curious... Personally I like when all you guys post here it makes us look less like trolls, not that we really are... but ya... I feel both welcomed and not at all stereotyped. |
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Post by fossil on Dec 15, 2015 5:46:03 GMT
The sarcasm is strong in this one.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Dec 15, 2015 5:50:46 GMT
The sarcasm is strong in this one. That is fine, we do enjoy robust individuals here. Not the one sided Whale love going on over in the other place! |
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Post by titsup on Dec 15, 2015 6:03:50 GMT
Do you feel some need to start posting here now? Just curious... Personally I like when all you guys post here it makes us look less like trolls, not that we really are... but ya... I feel both welcomed and not at all stereotyped. I think there's been such a division for so long that some ulterior motive is often considered as cause for one to begin posting here such as a newfound distaste for some aspect of the game. Rest assured, whatever your reasons, more voices are better and at least from me, you posting here is appreciated as is anyone else that adds theirs. I'm not hoping to tick another 'anti-port' notch. I'm just glad to hear people's opinions on the game and the goings on around it. Hope to read more from you, whatever your opinion is. |
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Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Dec 15, 2015 10:42:19 GMT
Without a core infrastructure in place, all else is absolutely superfluous. Without a solid combat system, that most people enjoy, the game is, and has been, nothing more than this:  |
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Dec 15, 2015 12:39:46 GMT
oh yeah baby! just you wait till that pink dye house render cement add-on is available in the story
awwwwyahhhhhhhh
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Post by fossil on Dec 15, 2015 14:24:03 GMT
To bad I don't care for much other then combat and then crafting and then... larping when I'm bored.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Dec 15, 2015 15:26:12 GMT
Oh man...its all coming out! |
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Post by fossil on Dec 15, 2015 16:53:28 GMT
Oh man...its all coming out! Well in mind manipulation if you continually pound something into an individuals brain they will start to believe it's true... |
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Post by dodgy on Dec 15, 2015 17:12:41 GMT
Like democracy?
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Dec 15, 2015 17:14:28 GMT
No, more like, "it is only pre-alpha"
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