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Limited bank space already causing issues...

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Thread about bank space already closed to further replies lol...unreal.

inb4 more justifications of this bad choice based on pointing toward games that they don't even play and understand....

If I see one more person point to GW2's limited bank/inventory space as grounds that SotA is justified in doing the same, I'm going to scream (I'm looking at YOU, Envy Midian... with your bullshit pointing to Aion and GW2 as your grounds for supporting SotA b.s. bank limits). <--- FWIW, NOBODY should EVER point to Aion as any model for how to do ANYthing. That terrible grindfest needs to die by fire and be forgotten about ASAP.

Still, it's obvious to me that NONE of these people who say that shit about GW2 also having limited space (so it's all good in SotA -- hurr durr) have ever played GW2 for more than 5 minutes.

In that game, your bank is split into 2 sections: Account Vault and Material Storage. Yes, the Account Vault is low on space (and starting inventory isn't huge either), but the Material Storage is what most SotA players (and devs) conveniently ignore when pointing out how justifiable it is to limit bank space to 20 ("because its a standard practice in this industry").


As you kill stuff and gather and your personal inventory fills up, you can hit a little "desposit all materials" option at any time and WHOOSH, the crafting materials and other odds and ends are removed from your inventory and auto-sorted/placed right into your material storage area (where they are already sorted and can stack up to 250 items). If you do the math (349 types x 250 stacking limit), that is over 87,000 total items (300+ distinct types) that can be stored in just that one part of your GW2 bank (which is available from the start of the game and requires absolutely no upgrades or unlocking to access it!).

This doesn't even factor in personal inventory space or the actual "account vault" bank area (which acts more like what we think of as far as a traditional MMO bank goes), which is more than ample (at starting levels) once you've cleared your inventory of all the crafting materials with an easy push of the "desposit all materials" button... And don't forget you can form a guild (FOR FREE OR ALMOST FREE) and then have more bank space using that guild's bank.

CONCLUSION: GW2 = TONS of bank space available for those who start out, and those who do upgrade the bank only do so because they have more gold than they know what to do with and nothing else to spend it on except some gems for unlocking banking slots and unnecessary conveniences like that....

When I see Envy (and DS) talk about how other games do banking, totally oblivious to the details about what they were talking about, a little part of me dies inside. They know nothing, Jon Snow, and they NEVER fucking listen to a good idea (especially if it's coming from a pariah like yours truly).

This shit is so amateur-hour it hurts. At least none of them can ever say they weren't warned about their bad choices.

Many of us spoke up about the Steam Review shit, were ignored, and ultimately we'll be vindicated on that one. Same thing with this. A lot of us (even idiots like me who backed at way too much money) spoke up and said limiting banking this much is a mistake. Again, ignored by arrogant assholes and shouted down by sycophants who think they know better than those of us who actually play some of the games we make references to (instead of pretending that we know shit, when in fact, we don't know diddly).

Fuck this game and its playerbase. This kind of ignorance and unflinching loyalty reminds me of they type of shit supporters of political parties pull all of the time....

*Kuno Brauer gains +3 Misanthropy and +5 Cynicism points*

I've always found the strict limiting of bank space one the most annoying things ever, especially when they rub it in by adding P2W bank space. I can understand the bank being limited in capacity but they need to get real here and increase the capacity by a lot. Whenever I've played a game with strict bank capacity rules, I've always found myself throwing out stuff that I would actually want to keep, even if it's not worth much, I'm always fighting for space. Now how is that fun for a player? if anything it makes me not want to play the game anymore, I won't want to have to sit there for 15 minutes trying to decide what to get rid of next. I know the whole extremely strict bank space idea revolves around the company being able to cash in on something, make money, but seriously find other ways to do this than a feature that directly impacts your whole game experience from day 1.

thread locked... fucking fast:

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^bolded section is EXACTLY what Portalarium wants.

They are greedy to the max. They don't understand how to entice people into playing and loving the game first, then extracting money from us later on when we are hooked and we are happy to throw some dough into the cookie jar.

Nobody really plays shit like LoL for the custom Champion skins. Most people buying those do it just because they love that champion, and/or they support Riot for giving away the game, etc.

SotA fails at free-to-play model with their constant pushes to make their entire game fee-to-pay.........

Limits are fine, but they need to be set at a point that a new player can get through at least most of the "starter" content without having to throw out a lot of stuff because space is too limited.

I suggested 150-200 on the forums, but even something more modest like 100-125 might be manageable (if ppl waited on crafting).

It's sad really when games are made by people who don't game themselves. You can always tell the difference between devs who have a passion for the craft and those who don't give a shit and are just being smart about the best ways to make $$$.

I'd also like to know when it became a good idea to give higher pledges more space, all this has done is turned pledges into a 100% P2W situation. Instead of paying more to support the game, now pledges get all this crap that puts them ahead of the game. I agree that there would be some limit for bank space, but it should be high, take a while to reach, and equal across all pledges. Lots should all have the same item allowance too across pledges. The storage space on lots should all depend on how many chests or storage containers you place, not a fixed number. I do think that bank space has to be set at a very reasonable capacity level to give house storage a meaning, a use, but it shouldn't be strict and involve p2w. They've created a system where they want to give off the image that people are pledging higher because the game is that good and it's merely for support, but the truth is people are pledging higher for the better stuff.

My advice, go get Amiga Forever and C64 Forever emulators and play some real games.

Yeah right, everyone just loves it totally unconditionally. 


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Most ppl who backed Crowfall's KS don't even realize they were only backing the "core" of the game (Dregs only). There are a lot of questions about just what people backed. I imagine there will be some anger over this is people realize the KS wasn't for the "complete" game...

There have been a few threads about this over on their forums: community.crowfall.com/index.php?/topic/3137-so-only-the-dregs-ruleset-being-funded-by-this-particular-ks/

This explains why they could slap an $800k goal on something that sounds so much more ambitious. Also, there have been a few videos and forum threads over there where the devs talk about already taking funding from outside sources (and likely taking it from 3rd parties in the future).

It won't take much for them to screw things up with their backers.