CIG and Star Citizen from the Inside

They did a wonderful job at blowin 90 million though...

How far off will Sota be in the end?

It sounds pretty though, and, there is no game... People will eat that right up.

That's up for debate. "Legit publishing"? What does that even mean nowadays? And does it make it legitimate by basically taking the everyman's equivalent of RipOff Report/Yelp reviews by disgruntled employees hiding behind anonymity? I've seen similar shit like this after laying off certain people at my job, so hearing that some folks can't hack it and blow up after being fired doesn't surprise me.


I might have missed it, but did they show anything? Y'see, from my understanding, they can refer to something they're sent and give Roberts an opportunity to defend himself, because worst case scenario, Roberts calls them out and they release their "source". But it doesn't matter - damage is done and they out some shitty plebs that couldn't keep up with arguably the most challenging game to create ever attempted with any modicum of success - they still get their hits from millions of interested parties.



It is one way or the other. Don't care about the game and only about the commercial? That's their argument, right? That Chris Roberts and CIG is all about presentations, and that they're afraid of him?

THEN DO NOT FUCK UP, ASSHOLES.

What the bullshit excuse do they have if their SOLE GODDAMN PURPOSE was to make an amazing commercial? "Sorry, boss, I know we spent $20 million and four months on making the next con to be super awesome, but I mixed up the slides on the powerpoint." On POWERPOINT?? I don't believe you can have your cake and eat it, too, in this regard: Yes, if that was the sole purpose of all of this, just one big scam, then the presentations would be killer. He'd hire experts who knew something about presentation and theatrics. There wouldn't be a single slide in the entirety of the presentation.

Have you watched their demos and presentations? Those are definitely developers, with all the stereotypical eternovirginity and social anxiety that comes with it. They have no flare for the theatrical, what the fuck to do next without it being sent to them in simple bullet form in an email. It was one of the guys who was told, "Hey, you're in charge of switching between the cameras." Was that bad planning? Sure, but if it condemns anything it's the bullshit these randoms are spewing to the Escapist alongside some basic lack of oversight for making the event seamless. Wonder why they didn't hire an entire group of people to help make that presentation flawless?

Oh, right - crowdfunding.

The reason Star Citizen is the largest crowdfunded project (remember, guys, that's in anything, not just games) is because of his vision. He isn't willing to suffer quality loss or design infidelity. We need more devs who are willing to tell us, "This is the game I'm making, and you're going to love it. Shut the fuck up and let me do my job."

I simply meant an actual publication that can be sued by Roberts/CIG for posting erroneous information that damages his and his wife's reputation. Nothing more.

Considering the content of the rest of your post, and the fact that you take such a superior tone toward me (despite the fact that you somehow think 2:1 is greater than 70%), forget I said anything. I won't engage in any more discussion with somebody who is foaming at the mouth at the mere suggestion things are amiss in the development of his precious Star Citizen (does the defensive tone and response remind anybody here of how another group of people responds to criticisms about their "ultimate RPG").

I was just trying to express that The Escapist would have a lot to lose if they posted second hand info without doing their due diligence. There is an interesting thread on reddit exposing these sources may have been merely copypasta from glassdoor.com, so perhaps they will be sued into the poor house if what they've posted is unsubstantiated, but I won't link it or discuss it anymore with you because you are clearly emotionally unnerved by anybody attacking Star Citizen and unwilling or unable to give me the benefit of the doubt when having an exchange about this topic. You'd rather just jump all over my shit and rush to White Knight for your $90 million game, so why should I point out the escapist possibly really screwed the pooch if you've already made up your mind about me and decided "kill it with fire" was the best approach to addressing me and what I said.

Different game, same old "my crowd-funded pet is infallible and don't you imply otherwise!!!" shit mentality.

And P.S. to Calico... you see nothing wrong? Nothing wrong with the directive to avoid hiring somebody over 40, or comments about not hiring a black girl, or writing to male employees that they don't have balls, or calling people faggots? Interesting to know there's no problem with that, but I personally am troubled the money I paid to back that game would pay the salary of such a precious flower like his "queen bee" wife.

But, again, between dewd typing in huge bolded font and jumping all over my case, and you merely shrugging at the possibility of ageism, racism, and homophobia, I'm done here. You guys can go back to endless discussions about nothing.

I hope Star Citizen turns out to be great, fwiw. I backed it and even though I am shit at that type of game, I have high hopes for it (but I don't just dismiss the POSSIBILITY that things are awry after what I've experienced when dealing with SotA's development and fanbase).

I'm willing to bet some of these sources are alt's of Derek Smart.

SC aside, this comment in the article, "the FTC has set a precedent by holding those launching campaigns accountable for any improper behaviors and misrepresentation in regards to crowdfunding campaigns."

I think at some point, someone or many, will charge Shroud with misrepresentation. I have screen shots of what their stretch goal of POTs constituted, and it's gone so far beyond that, POTs are unrecognizable. Anyone reading the original goal and seeing what they've developed agrees it's insane.

There are many other things too, but that one is one of the most glaring to me.

What has been accomplished with SC so far versus what Port's done are leagues apart. It's comparing apples to nuclear proliferation at; one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

Why can't you spend 5 years making a new genre?

Cost inflation to create games over that long of a period of time without having any income.

Most developers just make a beta game now days and launch it on the hopes of improvement.

I was a mmo player at heart but I think singleplayer games are becoming more appealing as they are usually complete.

SC has hit its climax in popularity until it's deployed and at that point all will see. In hopes of something great or just another game.