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Post by templara on Jun 26, 2015 7:30:19 GMT
This is absolutely horryfying, i read the chat logs. Woah how can this flower be so fucking clueless |
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Post by kb on Jun 26, 2015 7:50:46 GMT
This is absolutely horryfying, i read the chat logs. Woah how can this flower be so fucking clueless Because he works for a company that values loyalty over competency and squashes valid concerns in favor of unfounded sycophancy. In other words: Ass-kissers are the root of all evil. |
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Post by grimgryphon on Jun 26, 2015 18:36:50 GMT
This is absolutely horryfying, i read the chat logs. Woah how can this flower be so fucking clueless Because he works for a company that values loyalty over competency and squashes valid concerns in favor of unfounded sycophancy. In other words: Ass-kissers are the root of all evil. It's the SotA community mantra. In the face of a sinking ship...  |
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Post by kb on Jun 27, 2015 5:53:41 GMT
Saw a great post on this topic in a recent thread: I guess I missed the whole Johnny Cash/Taylor Swift comparison (I only skim threads now, no time to really pay attn to such a clusterfuck)... Still, what the SotA community like 4theLOLZ fail to realize with every "troll" they chase away from the official forums (and mock for having concerns) is that they are destroying the very thing they claim to love. SotA will never make it past episode 1 without a larger fanbase. So, I hope these nasty fucks enjoy their Pyrrhic victories, because with each "troll" you remove from the equation, you hurt the longevity of the very game you claim to support. It's fucking classic how none of these people crying about skill training (and how the devs responded) defended any of the "trolls" who have been silenced, banned, and bullied by the community for criticizing some other aspect of their precious SotA... It comes as no surprise that as soon as something finally comes along that effects them, and they get a taste of how the devs needlessly lock threads and merge posts to cover up disssent, a few of these fucks will finally realize that most of us weren't that unreasonable about our pet causes (AT FIRST...). For me, it was the Steam Review Request (and Starr and Dallas' responses in that thread, along with the community) that was the straw that broke the camel's back. For others, it was issues surrounding pvp or player housing or whatever. But, in all cases, each and every one of us started our dissent by trying to have a reasonable discussion. Things only got ugly after we were ignored, silenced, and mocked by the 4theLOLZ/Themo/Katrina Bekers/etc's of the world for our trouble (with our posts being reported and our accounts ultimately banned). Worse still, the nasty SotA "community" feel like they win something with each of us that are banned (or who gave up on the game in disgust). Yet, they are losing everything with each "victory" because, while not all of them would support all of our causes (and many of us are unlikely to support their pet projects), the ability to speak up and to be honest with Port is what was at stake in each of these instances where a "troll" dared to speak up and question the high and mighty devs (and time and time again, brown-nosers like Themo/et al placed their own smug satisfaction above everything else and shrilly shouted us down, likely reporting our posts and having a big laugh at our expense when our posts got deleted and our forum access revoked). It all reminds me of the same kind of mindfuck shit that goes down under repressive regimes (" First they came...."). Some people try to resist, try to dissent, and not only does the regime eliminate them, but it's their own neighbors, children, employers who turn them in (under the misguided belief that if they kneel low enough and worship hard enough, the regime will leave them be). Some probably even believe the hype and see any dissent toward their godly regimes as cause for tears and gnashing of teeth (or simply feel so fearful about reprisals that they put on a big show for any of the sycophants who might be watching their reactions with ill intent). However, sometimes in the end, the ones who were too cowardly/deluded to speak up pay an even greater price than the earlybird dissenters. So, enjoy your shit sandwich, 4theLOLZ/et al. You deserve every motherfucking bite! NOM NOM NOM NOM |
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jun 27, 2015 9:21:19 GMT
NOM NOM NOM NOM hahhaha  |
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jun 28, 2015 10:51:42 GMT
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Post by grimgryphon on Jun 28, 2015 12:58:19 GMT
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jun 28, 2015 15:13:44 GMT
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Post by dodgy on Jun 28, 2015 15:16:11 GMT
BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT ITS PRE ALPHA REMEMBER
EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE OK
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Post by kb on Jun 29, 2015 3:02:05 GMT
BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT ITS PRE ALPHA PER ALFALFA REMEMBER EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE OK Fixed. |
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Post by Sicherdraht on Jun 29, 2015 4:21:52 GMT
That won't do nothing from Ukrainian girls driving me wild.
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Post by dodgy on Jun 30, 2015 13:14:16 GMT
www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/request-uo-skilling.33269/page-2Bwahahaha! You are a funny guy.  I never once admitted to voting 5 times in a poll I said I could Vote five times in a pole. Reading comprehension for the win friend. Where have I jumped in all these various topics? Last I have known about forums is people can read and post. If I feel I have something to say I say it. I proved my point and you validated it. Polls on this forum are skewed. Who cares ether way. Again so you can read it legibly, PLEASE READ SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY! I did not vote five times. I said I could vote five times. I dont even know what poll you are referring to. Also I did not just create 5 accounts, I have 5 accounts. 1 Duke, 1 baron 3, and 3 citizen.
THIS GUY IS THE COOLEST DUDE ON THE INTERNET
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Post by kb on Jun 30, 2015 15:30:44 GMT
If we all work really hard, maybe one day we might be half as cool as Ravicus Domdouche  #BelieveTheDream |
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Post by Ravicus on Jun 30, 2015 15:47:21 GMT
So can you tell me what is wrong with that? Have I done something to offend any of you by putting my money where my mouth is? Sure you can call me stupid or lame or whatever floats your boat. Let me have it guys. I must be one hell of a bad dude because I do what I want with what I have. I really don't think I am that bad of a person but I guess you guys think so. So tell me what I should be like. Tell me how wrong I have been to be called a douche for actually standing by my statements. KB I was right beside you against the 10k special town thread a while back. Hell I have been banned and moderated and deleted many times just like you all. I just handle it differently and wont let it consume me. Do I feel upset at some of the things that has happened? Sure I do. But its not my mission in life to hold such hatred that it bleeds out to every individual also. I actually want to feel sorry for you guys. If it helps you feel better go ahead and bash me good. Maybe I do deserve it, who knows.
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Post by kb on Jun 30, 2015 15:57:57 GMT
So can you tell me what is wrong with that? Have I done something to offend any of you by putting my money where my mouth is? Sure you can call me stupid or lame or whatever floats your boat. Let me have it guys. I must be one hell of a bad dude because I do what I want with what I have. I really don't think I am that bad of a person but I guess you guys think so. So tell me what I should be like. Tell me how wrong I have been to be called a douche for actually standing by my statements. KB I was right beside you against the 10k special town thread a while back. Hell I have been banned and moderated and deleted many times just like you all. I just handle it differently and wont let it consume me. Do I feel upset at some of the things that has happened? Sure I do. But its not my mission in life to hold such hatred that it bleeds out to every individual also. I actually want to feel sorry for you guys. If it helps you feel better go ahead and bash me good. Maybe I do deserve it, who knows. It's just lame how you crow to the heavens about it. Boast about it. Puff you chest up about it. Is it really something worth sharing, unless it's meant to be a boast or to belittle the person you directed it to...  IDK, I guess I missed the point you were making. I admit that I mostly skim over stuff on the official forums now because I have little interest in the game (except to see the trainwreck side of things). And yes, I remember you speaking up in the POT thread (kudos for actually showing you had a spine for a brief moment), but I also remember you being on-board with the bank slot stuff and mocking anybody who spoke out against that (and that you possibly had the same kind of haughty attitude directed toward those of us who spoke out against Starr's "Steam Review Request" b.s.). So like the Mannis says:
"A good act does not wash out the bad, nor a bad the good."Anyway, if I have any of this wrong, or it was wrong to mock you for boasting about your unflinching support for asshole devs who ban and shun anybody who doesn't kiss ass (i.e., "handle it differently"), then my apologies. But, whatever. I have little sympathy for the money grubbers at Port, or their sycophantic toadies. P.S. Fuck D&D. |
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Post by Ravicus on Jun 30, 2015 16:17:08 GMT
Well I guess you could see it as boasting and mocking. I normally would never have done that I was called out by the poster that I was arguing with and he stated that I created accounts to vote in a poll. He misunderstood my statement and read into it what he wanted and then spewed it untruthfully on the forums. I corrected his flaw and yes maybe I did not have to say the pledge levels and if you found that offensive I apologize. Listen, I don't ever want to try to belittle anyone. About the bank box thing I was not arguing for port, It was my opinion. Maybe we can have different opinions on things and still be able to be civil. One thing about the forums over there is that I do find myself having to be to the point and factual because every time I try to express emotion such as humor or wit, I get reported and moderated. So again if I come across blunt or haughty, it really is not my intention to be that way, its just the only way I can post without someone spamming the report button.
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Post by Foss on Jun 30, 2015 16:17:21 GMT
It amazes me why the fanboys are coming to this site to see what's going on... personally if it was me and I had the blinders on. There is no way in hell I'd come to look at some non official site to see what people are saying.
I tend to look at myself as an observer and what I see is people that are worried. There should be no reason to justify coming to this site to see what's being talked about.
So either deep down people are starting to realize the state of the game or are self conscience about how they look towards people they will never physically interact with.
Me personally I laugh at people that try to tell me about the relationships they have made virtually... I have as well but I'm not emotionally tied to any of these people.
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Post by Ravicus on Jun 30, 2015 16:25:33 GMT
It amazes me why the fanboys are coming to this site to see what's going on... personally if it was me and I had the blinders on. There is no way in hell I'd come to look at some non official site to see what people are saying. I tend to look at myself as an observer and what I see is people that are worried. There should be no reason to justify coming to this site to see what's being talked about. So either deep down people are starting to realize the state of the game or are self conscience about how they look towards people they will never physically interact with. Me personally I laugh at people that try to tell me about the relationships they have made virtually... I have as well but I'm not emotionally tied to any of these people. Not sure why your amazed by this. There are many of us that come over here. I just posted because I got called out. What is the difference to you anyways. You guys do the same thing. You lurk over there and take screenshots to post over here. Really no difference. We are all curious creatures that want to know the latest gossip lol. |
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Post by Foss on Jun 30, 2015 16:35:31 GMT
It amazes me why the fanboys are coming to this site to see what's going on... personally if it was me and I had the blinders on. There is no way in hell I'd come to look at some non official site to see what people are saying. I tend to look at myself as an observer and what I see is people that are worried. There should be no reason to justify coming to this site to see what's being talked about. So either deep down people are starting to realize the state of the game or are self conscience about how they look towards people they will never physically interact with. Me personally I laugh at people that try to tell me about the relationships they have made virtually... I have as well but I'm not emotionally tied to any of these people. Not sure why your amazed by this. There are many of us that come over here. I just posted because I got called out. What is the difference to you anyways. You guys do the same thing. You lurk over there and take screenshots to post over here. Really no difference. We are all curious creatures that want to know the latest gossip lol. You read it but you did not understand what was said. |
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Post by Ravicus on Jun 30, 2015 16:40:59 GMT
Then please clarify, I am not getting your meaning. Are you saying that from you analyzing people that come over here to read this sight, that they are concerned? I think its kind of like days of our lives and cant miss a daily episode lol.
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Post by kb on Jun 30, 2015 17:39:28 GMT
About the bank box thing I was not arguing for port, It was my opinion. FWIW, just wanted to share that I went back and read the "Steam Review Request" thread and you weren't the one who brought up the Bible and morality, so my apologies for that. Ironically, it was Isaiah who said the stuff in that thread that really set me off (the same guy who later recanted his glowing review of Port and lamented the fact that he carried water for them in that way on the official forums...). Go figure. Of course, his insulting posts were permitted (because they "supported" Port), and mine were removed. Did he ever own up to his abject fuckery and offer a mea culpa for talking shit about those of us who called Starr's bullshit for what it was? Nope. Yet, I was "temporarily banned" for over a month after railing against the steam review request and the POT shit, and Isaiah remained a golden child (until he finally raised a ruckus on the forums and got smacked down... probably deciding to "handle it differently" rather than risk his precious pledge). Anyway, so, yeah... I was wrong about that one, fwiw. Doesn't change the fact that I still think you (and Drocis, and E N V Y) were right said twats during the bank slot shit. I've seen you be a huge dick to people too, along the lines of how you threw in your pledges in your response to that idiot, so I just have a bad vibe toward you. Sorry if you don't like that, but who really cares? I'm just some random troll that won't ever play the game, so it honestly doesn't matter one iota what I think when it comes to the SotA-sphere of delusion |
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Post by ChodeKillers on Jun 30, 2015 19:06:57 GMT
It is funny how faggots like ravicus just HAVE to believe that all is well. The money involved clouds their judgement into defending any shitty decision port makes otherwise the fake world that portlarium created for them on lies will crumble.
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Post by Ravicus on Jun 30, 2015 19:31:39 GMT
It is funny how faggots like ravicus just HAVE to believe that all is well. The money involved clouds their judgement into defending any shitty decision port makes otherwise the fake world that portlarium created for them on lies will crumble. I guess thats my choice now isnt it. If it tanks its my loss right? So, what makes you so mad at me personally? Are you upset that I can still have faith in something I backed? Are you envious of what I have? I don't understand why you should be so upset with me personally to be so upset with me. Did I offend you somehow? I have not defended every decision from anyone that I don't think was needed. Its true I have skin in the game and I hope it succeeds. You have every right to complain and rant about what ever you want however. I was just wondering why its so personal between me and you. I'm not trying to tell you to be nice to anyone. I honestly don't care about what you think about port. I do worry though that you have all this hatred built up for anyone that wants to just discuss things. |
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Post by Ravicus on Jun 30, 2015 19:59:22 GMT
It is funny how faggots like ravicus just HAVE to believe that all is well. The money involved clouds their judgement into defending any shitty decision port makes otherwise the fake world that portlarium created for them on lies will crumble. Hey, Its all good. At least you are honest and consistent with your arguments. You actually have some valid points. I am certainly no angel and have had my moments of heated arguments. Usually after I have been drinking lol. I don't blame you for any vibes one gets from the forums. I find it really hard to show expression through words personally and many times I have been taken wrong before. But ya what ever. You may think I'm a douche but at least we can have a conversation. |
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Post by Ravicus on Jun 30, 2015 20:01:07 GMT
That was directed at KB not you chodekiller lol
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Post by kb on Jun 30, 2015 21:17:21 GMT
It is funny how faggots like ravicus just HAVE to believe that all is well. The money involved clouds their judgement into defending any shitty decision port makes otherwise the fake world that portlarium created for them on lies will crumble. Hey, Its all good. At least you are honest and consistent with your arguments. You actually have some valid points. I am certainly no angel and have had my moments of heated arguments. Usually after I have been drinking lol. I don't blame you for any vibes one gets from the forums. I find it really hard to show expression through words personally and many times I have been taken wrong before. But ya what ever. You may think I'm a douche but at least we can have a conversation. I'm anything but consistent and honest, and my points are shit about half of the time. I think it is interesting when names from the official forums come here to read, but I don't always see the point (except pointless bickering back and forth). I guess for some it is to laugh at the monkeys flinging their feces about in every general direction (which is no different than any other forum tbh), and it's certainly interesting when people from the official forums speak up and can be candid about what they think in a way that's not permitted elsewhere, but... all of you have to understand, there isn't a "community" here like what you have over there (with FL nannying all the crybabies and daddy Starr playing tough cop with the rapscallions in the crowd). Many of us share things in common, but a lot of us are very different from each other and IM (and a lot of the other people here) aren't the type to coddle or play nice with a lot of the personality types found over on SotA's forums. Some of the people here probably have every reason to call me a douche, to tear me apart, to give me a hard time. I know there are a lot of the people who post here who really hate RP'ers (and I understand the examples you guys brought up in response to Mordecai), but I can see some instances of RPers to be fine (within a broader context of a very dangerous world). If any person here took me to task for that, that's between us and it would not shock me (and I wouldn't report posts or ask IM to make the meanie stop/etc). Oh well, they are some random person on here and I am a random person on here. There have been times people have made posts that really offended others. A post is made about how terrible it is that Person A said XYZ and IM should do something about that, what good is this forum if it allows such hate and vitriol/etc. IM did nothing, the posters in questions argued a bit (and sadly one of them no longer posts here), and I'm glad it went that way (instead of IM being a fucking fool and stinking up the place with heavy-handed b.s.), even though I regret that one of the posters doesn't feel comfortable to post here anymore. Oh well, AT LEAST THERE IS NO FILTER. A place where all are free to say what they will (even if it's fucking insane) is best to me, even if it means a quality poster doesn't post here. The SotA people often come here and attack many of us for being needlessly bitter (which I'm sure a lot of us are), but in all cases, I'm glad IM lets whatever is said stick nearly all of the time (except don't say c|_|nt... and I mean, NEVER say c|_|nt here!), because it makes this forum a lot like an Open PvP game, where if you do something that draws somebody's ire, and they encounter you, they are likely to bring the pain (and you'd better be ready for it). What's more, they will remember you and might even hunt you and grief you off the server (if you've really pissed them off). Welcome to "real" risk, that for *SOME* people means real fun. The problem with official SotA forums is it's a lot like "consensual" pvp bullshit in SotA (I'm talking the "please don't PvP mah beautiful event in an Open Pvp, OMFG FL PLZ BAN THESE MEANIES!!! WAAAAH!" sensibility from the folks over there). It's why that I appreciate posting here, even if a lot of what I post is just rambling and useless. Even if we're calling you a douche and chodekiller is killing you because he's deemed you a chode, I'm glad you posted (and others have) because you all should appreciate this place too because people don't have to be filtered here. I just hate that you noobs never make accounts, or stick around long enough to actually throw down more than once or twice, because 1) it's annoying to read the minor mistakes in guest posts that you guys can't fix and 2) I know several of us appreciate the exchange, even if we're flinging feces in your general direction. I think the SotA supporters who are open-minded, but still get a hostile reaction here, would get it better if they just understood the underlying issues that some of us have when people who appear to lap up Port's shit come here. I, personally, REALLY have a problem with how certain things that seemed obvious to me (that I spoke up about) were categorically dismissed/ignored. I feel that all the people who support Port, and who are so quick to share their facts and opinions in support of some of the sleazier things they've pulled, are ENABLERS who made it way too easy for Port to just turn every knob and dial on the cash machine to make it the most exploitative, disgusting joke of a "game" that I have ever seen. So, at least in my case, I am very testy toward people that I remember as having been somebody who seemed to be okay with some of the stuff Port has done that I've found most distasteful. I imagine a lot of people here are the same way, so ANY person from the official forums is likely to get a hostile reaction unless you are remembered on the forum for being somebody who didn't always carry water for Port. Those of you who come over here, with your ability to still post over there and whatnot, are, after all, supporting a company that most of us hold in very low esteem. After reading some of the things I've read, it's not hard to see a lot of you as collaborators, so I think labels like douche and so on are warranted, until other evidence convinces me otherwise. Anyway, sry to all about the TL;DR. I'm terrible about that. Sucks to be any of you who made it this far... Anyway, I will just end with a reminder to chodekiller (and myself) that there is nothing to guarantee that ANY of these official posters from the SotA forum are real. There was evidence that the "Envy" poster was an imposter (shit broke mah heart... hnnnnnnnnngggggghhhhhh), so who's to say Ravicus (or any other) are actually who they are. We might just be posting responses to what Chris' dog managed to post inadvertently while shitting on hist keyboard. And, who's to say I'm really even kuno brauer? For all we know, every post in this place is just IM arguing with himself using multiple accounts, ultimately creating his troll magnum opus, which is sure to win over Chris' cold heart at the end of the day.... |
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Post by argyle on Jun 30, 2015 21:37:26 GMT
Yeah, I'll be fair to her though, I actually skimmed her comment and only read after she had quoted me and I kind of lashed out at her specifically. I do think though that what I said in there could be cast more broadly on the population of their forums. Also, I sold my account long ago so my involvement in that community was ending either way. I wasn't actually that pissed to walk off, but it does sort of encapsulate my feelings from dealing with the majority of the community overall. I'm really just kind of spit balling ideas there though. It seems like many of them don't wish to consider the fact that gold may have been included to offer real money as an option to gain skills. The defenders of the game's store have vehemently defended it by saying there is no in game advantage to any real money transactions in the game. I think continuing that line of thinking is made much more difficult if they sell gold in the store and gold is used to purchase skills. I'm certain if that is the case that it will be further be defended as not 'really' being pay to win and somehow slinking around the minefield the come up with some excuses. We'll have to see though. Garriott's interview with markeedragon tap danced all around the issue and actually got a little awkward regarding RMT. |
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Post by Foss on Jun 30, 2015 21:38:48 GMT
Hey, Its all good. At least you are honest and consistent with your arguments. You actually have some valid points. I am certainly no angel and have had my moments of heated arguments. Usually after I have been drinking lol. I don't blame you for any vibes one gets from the forums. I find it really hard to show expression through words personally and many times I have been taken wrong before. But ya what ever. You may think I'm a douche but at least we can have a conversation. I'm anything but consistent and honest, and my points are shit about half of the time. I think it is interesting when names from the official forums come here to read, but I don't always see the point (except pointless bickering back and forth). I guess for some it is to laugh at the monkeys flinging their feces about in every general direction (which is no different than any other forum tbh), and it's certainly interesting when people from the official forums speak up and can be candid about what they think in a way that's not permitted elsewhere, but... all of you have to understand, there isn't a "community" here like what you have over there (with FL nannying all the crybabies and daddy Starr playing tough cop with the rapscallions in the crowd). Many of us share things in common, but a lot of us are very different from each other and IM (and a lot of the other people here) aren't the type to coddle or play nice with a lot of the personality types found over on SotA's forums. Some of the people here probably have every reason to call me a douche, to tear me apart, to give me a hard time. I know there are a lot of you who really hate RP'ers (and I understand the examples you guys brought up in response to Mordecai), but I can see some instances of RPers to be fine (within a broader context of a very dangerous world). If any person here took me to task for that, that's between us and it would not shock me (and I wouldn't report posts or ask IM to make the meanie stop/etc). Oh well, they are some random person on here and I am a random person on here. There have been times people have made posts that really offended others. A post is made about how terrible it is that Person A said XYZ and IM should do something about that, what good is this forum if it allows such hate and vitriol/etc. IM did nothing, the posters in questions argued a bit (and sadly one of them no longer posts here), and I'm glad it went that way (instead of IM being a fucking fool and stinking up the place with heavy-handed b.s.), even though I regret that one of the posters doesn't feel comfortable to post here anymore. Oh well, AT LEAST THERE IS NO FILTER. A place where all are free to say what they will (even if it's fucking insane) is best to me, even if it means a quality poster doesn't post here. The SotA people often come here and attack many of us for being needlessly bitter (which I'm sure a lot of us are), but in all cases, I'm glad IM lets whatever is said stick nearly all of the time (except don't say c|_|nt... and I mean, NEVER say c|_|nt here!), because it makes this forum a lot like an Open PvP game, where if you do something that draws somebody's ire, and they encounter you, they are likely to bring the pain (and you'd better be ready for it). What's more, they will remember you and might even hunt you and grief you off the server (if you've really pissed them off). Welcome to "real" risk, that for *SOME* people means real fun. The problem with official SotA forums is it's a lot like "consensual" pvp bullshit in SotA (I'm talking the "please don't PvP mah beautiful event in an Open Pvp, OMFG FL PLZ BAN THESE MEANIES!!! WAAAAH!" sensibility from the folks over there). It's why that I appreciate posting here, even if a lot of what I post is just rambling and useless. Even if we're calling you a douche and chodekiller is killing you because he's deemed you a chode, I'm glad you posted (and others have) because you all should appreciate this place too because people don't have to be filtered here. I just hate that you noobs never make accounts, or stick around long enough to actually throw down more than once or twice, because 1) it's annoying to read the minor mistakes in guest posts that you guys can't fix and 2) I know several of us appreciate the exchange, even if we're flinging feces in your general direction. I think the SotA supporters who are open-minded, but still get a hostile reaction here, would get it better if they just understood the underlying issues that some of us have when people who appear to lap up Port's shit come here. I, personally, REALLY have a problem with how certain things that seemed obvious to me (that I spoke up about) were categorically dismissed/ignored. I feel that all the people who support Port, and who are so quick to share their facts and opinions in support of some of the sleazier things they've pulled, are ENABLERS who made it way too easy for Port to just turn every knob and dial on the cash machine to make it the most exploitative, disgusting joke of a "game" that I have ever seen. So, at least in my case, I am very testy toward people that I remember as having been somebody who seemed to be okay with some of the stuff Port has done that I've found most distasteful. I imagine a lot of people here are the same way, so ANY person from the official forums is likely to get a hostile reaction unless you are remembered on the forum for being somebody who didn't always carry water for Port. Those of you who come over here, with your ability to still post over there and whatnot, are, after all, supporting a company that most of us hold in very low esteem. After reading some of the things I've read, it's not hard to see a lot of you as collaborators, so I think labels like douche and so on are warranted, until other evidence convinces me otherwise. Anyway, sry to all about the TL;DR. I'm terrible about that. Sucks to be any of you who made it this far... Anyway, I will just end with a reminder to chodekiller (and myself) that there is nothing to guarantee that ANY of these official posters from the SotA forum are real. There was evidence that the "Envy" poster was an imposter (shit broke mah heart... hnnnnnnnnngggggghhhhhh), so who's to say Ravicus (or any other) are actually who they are. We might just be posting responses to what Chris' dog managed to post inadvertently while shitting on hist keyboard. And, who's to say I'm really even kuno brauer? For all we know, every post in this place is just IM arguing with himself using multiple accounts, ultimately creating his troll magnum opus, which is sure to win over Chris' cold heart at the end of the day.... That hurt to read lol |
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Post by kb on Jun 30, 2015 21:50:52 GMT
Yeah, I'll be fair to her though, I actually skimmed her comment and only read after she had quoted me and I kind of lashed out at her specifically. I do think though that what I said in there could be cast more broadly on the population of their forums. Also, I sold my account long ago so my involvement in that community was ending either way. I wasn't actually that pissed to walk off, but it does sort of encapsulate my feelings from dealing with the majority of the community overall. I'm really just kind of spit balling ideas there though. It seems like many of them don't wish to consider the fact that gold may have been included to offer real money as an option to gain skills. The defenders of the game's store have vehemently defended it by saying there is no in game advantage to any real money transactions in the game. I think continuing that line of thinking is made much more difficult if they sell gold in the store and gold is used to purchase skills. I'm certain if that is the case that it will be further be defended as not 'really' being pay to win and somehow slinking around the minefield the come up with some excuses. We'll have to see though. Garriott's interview with markeedragon tap danced all around the issue and actually got a little awkward regarding RMT. I'm convinced they have every intention of selling gold. Whether they will is another matter, but there are a lot of clues that show their hand on this one. When I linked about this topic before and hinted about the link between the high cost to change skills (and the potential for them to sell gold), I couldn't find the specific thread that I was thinking about where DS was saying things about how this is standard industry practice/etc (very similar to what is found in the chat log linked to before). It makes perfect that they intend to do this, given all of the gold sinks in the game with armor repair, houses/deeds/rent/bankslots (if you buy in game instead of store). It's how "fee2pay" style games work (the game's design entices time-pressed players to use real $ to "cheat" or "cut in line"). And yes, you are right they will say it's not 'really' pay to win, because the Store Apologists will say the same thing they say in response to every complaint about p2w/"pay for an advantage": It doesn't really matter because you can always just earn the gold in game, so stop complaining, peon.The real question is how easily it will be to do that and just what the game's economy is going to look like considering how worthless the "gold" will be if all these Lords and Barons and Dukes and Dickheads are buying gold hand over fist with real money because they have more real $'s than sense.... It's no surprise that a group of gamers concerned with how their virtual dollhouse looks has no sense of how price inflation and currency devaluation might make the "real economy" in this game a freakish joke. Only time will tell how this all pans out. |
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Post by kb on Jun 30, 2015 21:52:30 GMT
Sry, I have a problem  I very rarely post on forums, because I know I suck at concision and nobody in their right mind would bother with reading most of the stuff I write. Anyway, I'll leave all of your eyes to recover. Later |
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I never once admitted to voting 5 times in a poll I said I could Vote five times in a pole. Reading comprehension for the win friend. Where have I jumped in all these various topics? Last I have known about forums is people can read and post. If I feel I have something to say I say it. I proved my point and you validated it. Polls on this forum are skewed. Who cares ether way. Again so you can read it legibly, PLEASE READ SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY! I did not vote five times. I said I could vote five times. I dont even know what poll you are referring to. Also I did not just create 5 accounts, I have 5 accounts. 1 Duke, 1 baron 3, and 3 citizen.
