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Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 14, 2015 18:20:36 GMT kb, Sicherdraht, and 1 more like this

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Post by grimgryphon on Jun 14, 2015 18:20:36 GMT

Thought I better screenshot this before it gets taken down. Posted 16 minutes ago and no responses. That must be a record with all the verbal diarrhea from the "cool kids" over on the SotA forums.

If it sticks around for a while, then I can't wait to hear what douchebags like Bloodgood come up with as a response.

grimgryphon Strong in the Force Posts: 618	Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 14, 2015 18:25:14 GMT templara likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by grimgryphon on Jun 14, 2015 18:25:14 GMT Interesting response from Zerk2012 but I believe a warning or ban is probably already on its way.

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Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 14, 2015 23:27:12 GMT via mobile

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Post by dodgy on Jun 14, 2015 23:27:12 GMT

I been trying to get references to where players mention dev intent or how certain stats and bugs are working buy keep getting shut down.

Am I missing something or does it seem to you there are group of players close on with the dev team and getting an inside track or people just knowledge hoarding.

Or I am retarded

You guys know the source of some statements

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Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 14, 2015 23:54:40 GMT templara likes this

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Post by grimgryphon on Jun 14, 2015 23:54:40 GMT

Jun 14, 2015 23:27:12 GMT dodgy said:

I been trying to get references to where players mention dev intent or how certain stats and bugs are working buy keep getting shut down.

Am I missing something or does it seem to you there are group of players close on with the dev team and getting an inside track or people just knowledge hoarding.

Or I am retarded

You guys know the source of some statements

It's hard to tell if some of them are taking a belly full of jizz in exchange for information or if they are just blowing smoke out of their ass. Either way it seems pretty typical of that crowd.

With people like Baron or Bloodgood, my guess is the former.

Dewderonomy Guest	Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 15, 2015 0:05:13 GMT templara and dodgy like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Dewderonomy on Jun 15, 2015 0:05:13 GMT These should be the official forums lol.

Sir_Hemlock Guest	Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 15, 2015 1:14:51 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Sir_Hemlock on Jun 15, 2015 1:14:51 GMT Lol hey Dewderonomy

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Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 15, 2015 2:03:18 GMT templara likes this

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Post by grimgryphon on Jun 15, 2015 2:03:18 GMT

Jun 15, 2015 0:05:13 GMT Dewderonomy said:

These should be the official forums lol.

But then a lot of heads would explode. Those people can't handle truths, much less reality.

Now that I think of it, exploding heads sounds like it might be fun to watch.

We'll get our chance soon enough as this piece of shit game crashes and burns and the community has a meltdown.

Can you imagine the whining and raging?

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Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 15, 2015 2:16:09 GMT

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Post by Dewderonomy on Jun 15, 2015 2:16:09 GMT

If I spent the money that a lot of people over there have, I'd be biting my nails wondering what would happen if/when the servers go offline. That's a lot of shit for a single player experience that depends heavily on MMO elements, like housing, POTs and the like.

dodgy Strong in the Force Posts: 1,171	Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 15, 2015 3:01:37 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by dodgy on Jun 15, 2015 3:01:37 GMT Hey dewd Especially after reading most of your posts now totes agree with you

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Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 16, 2015 0:07:02 GMT templara likes this

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Post by Dewderonomy on Jun 16, 2015 0:07:02 GMT

Jun 15, 2015 3:01:37 GMT dodgy said:

Guy: I'd like to buy a hotdog.

Vendor: All right, that'll be $1 and ten minutes.

Guy: Sure thing. Also, I see I can order fries with that.

Vendor: Yep, got 'em right here. It'll be $3.

Guy: For fries? The hotdog's only a buck.

Vendor: You don't have to have fries, though.

Guy: That's true, I guess. And they are hot and ready. Okay, give me a coke with that.

Vendor: $47.95.

Guy: You've gotta' be kidding me.

Vendor: It goes to keeping this hotdog meat organic and the dream of hot dog stands alive. It's about independence so you don't have to pay extra for corporate hot dogs with lesser quality.

Guy: But... you're just selling a basic hot dog. I mean, sure you got relish, onions, and mustard like most places but-

Vendor: Not until next month.

Guy: What?

Vendor: Not until next month. We won't have relish and mustard until next month.

Guy: ...All right. How about onions?

Vendor: Here you go.

Guy: What is this?

Vendor: Onion.

Guy: This is shrimp scampi with onions in it.

Vendor: You're welcome.

Guy: I'm allergic to seafood. That's why I wanted a hotdog and not fish-n-chips.

Vendor: But it's different.

Guy: But I don't want it.

Vendor: But it's different.

Guy: But I don't want it.

Vendor: Do you want just a boring old bun and cheap meat?

Guy: I just want the hotdog you said you offered!

Vendor: But do you want a boring old bun and cheap meat?

Guy: Well, no, but-

Vendor: Then you get shrimp scampi.

Guy: But I don't want shrimp scampi! I want a quality hotdog! It's what I gave you money for.

Vendor: Which is non-refundable, thank you.

Guy: Fine, forget the "onions" or whatever else. It's been ten minutes. Just give me a plain hotdog and I'll be on my way.

Vendor: Next week.

Guy: What's next week?

Vendor: Your hotdog will be ready next week.

Guy: WHY NEXT WEEK??

Vendor: Because we hadn't worked on making shrimp scampi good enough for consumers. They aren't liking it, and we admit we haven't looked into why, but we're determined to make it work.

Guy: It isn't working because people don't want shrimp scampi from a hotdog vendor!

Vendor: But it's different.

Guy: FINE! I'll come back next week.

...

Guy: I can't believe I'm doing this, but is my hotdog ready?

Vendor: Sorry, we've been really busy working on street signs. Come back next week.

That's more accurate.

I really liked my counter to Themo's hotdog vendor analogy, and they're taking it down. =[

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Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 16, 2015 1:33:45 GMT via mobile templara likes this

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Post by dodgy on Jun 16, 2015 1:33:45 GMT

The closure of that thread highlights the censorship going on. Ultimately it gives more bad press to the game.

I do wonder if the driving force is fire lotus and the fan bois or the development.

End of the day if they need more cash they should should work on delivering what was promised.

Not to mention the hidden inner circle of players working on the game. I asked about qa server.,where people get info for upcoming changes ,how stats and dmg calculation work and how to join combat scrum. Needless to say got typical wishy washy vague answers until I asked 5 times.

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Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 16, 2015 1:58:26 GMT templara and dodgy like this

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Post by grimgryphon on Jun 16, 2015 1:58:26 GMT

Jun 16, 2015 1:33:45 GMT dodgy said:

The closure of that thread highlights the censorship going on. Ultimately it gives more bad press to the game.

I do wonder if the driving force is fire lotus and the fan bois or the development.

End of the day if they need more cash they should should work on delivering what was promised.

Not to mention the hidden inner circle of players working on the game. I asked about qa server.,where people get info for upcoming changes ,how stats and dmg calculation work and how to join combat scrum. Needless to say got typical wishy washy vague answers until I asked 5 times.

Like I've said all along, SotA is being built for the $11K backers and the rest are just filler cash so those elite backers can have their game.

The scam is actually quite clever.

dodgy Strong in the Force Posts: 1,171	Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 16, 2015 2:26:10 GMT via mobile templara likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by dodgy on Jun 16, 2015 2:26:10 GMT Hmm. Only logical conclusion lol

Sicherdraht Insane Foo Time Traveler, mathe operative x Posts: 192	Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 16, 2015 16:31:57 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Sicherdraht on Jun 16, 2015 16:31:57 GMT One more locked thread and more threats from the moderators. FireLotus is getting more job titles, it now looks like a laundry list. Lets add internet lawyer to her vast number of disciplines.

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Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 17, 2015 1:05:21 GMT

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Post by Dewderonomy on Jun 17, 2015 1:05:21 GMT

It's gonna' be real fuckin' funny when Episode 1 is released and they're asked to put in another $500K-$1M or more for Episode 2 after they're all paid up to Episode 5, and all the other backers get to sit back and wait for their free expansions for the next 4-5 years.

Not like anyone will play this shitfest for that long, but that just makes it even funnier.

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Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 17, 2015 17:06:25 GMT Mordecai likes this

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Post by The Inside Track on Jun 17, 2015 17:06:25 GMT

There are a few backers who have the inside track, but they're personal friends of the devs. There are other backers who know a ton and hoard information, but they don't have any special access. They simply asked via PM. The devs will only respond via PM. They won't repost that info as they are responding in kind: a private message (question) was asked, so a private message (answer) was replied.

And this is where it gets fun. If you cut and paste you're message with the Devs to the forum, it could get removed. Why? because it's a PM. Private means private. Both parties agreed to a private conversation. You need the others consent before outright copying and pasting, or even to reveal what was said, again, in a private conversation.

So, back to the question: yes, there are backers who know quite a bit more than what's been revealed. They simply choose not to repost or can't. But is it because they are sucking dick and getting the inside track? Generally no. They simply asked via PM. The devs generally ignore the forums or at least don't post to them. Starr, Chris, and Lum are the devs that mostly post anyways. But they do read and respond to PMs. Mostly. And when they get around to it. And if you're obviously not a troll. Or they recognize your name. Etc.

So, got a question? Simply PM them. The forums, as we all know, are a joke in how they are organized and moderated. The devs know this too. Which is why they would rather reply in PMs because it limits the scope of their discussion, if you will. No 100 page threads to slog through.

Raka Guest	Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 17, 2015 22:08:37 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Raka on Jun 17, 2015 22:08:37 GMT Anyone got a screeny of the 6th page of the thread shown in the op? It didnt get banned because it didnt go emo or anything. Went off topic bit but didnt slander anybody or nothin liek alot of the banned threads did

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Um, this is not going to end well... Jun 17, 2015 23:48:35 GMT via mobile

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Post by dodgy on Jun 17, 2015 23:48:35 GMT

Jun 17, 2015 17:06:25 GMT The Inside Track said:

There are a few backers who have the inside track, but they're personal friends of the devs. There are other backers who know a ton and hoard information, but they don't have any special access. They simply asked via PM. The devs will only respond via PM. They won't repost that info as they are responding in kind: a private message (question) was asked, so a private message (answer) was replied.

And this is where it gets fun. If you cut and paste you're message with the Devs to the forum, it could get removed. Why? because it's a PM. Private means private. Both parties agreed to a private conversation. You need the others consent before outright copying and pasting, or even to reveal what was said, again, in a private conversation.

So, back to the question: yes, there are backers who know quite a bit more than what's been revealed. They simply choose not to repost or can't. But is it because they are sucking dick and getting the inside track? Generally no. They simply asked via PM. The devs generally ignore the forums or at least don't post to them. Starr, Chris, and Lum are the devs that mostly post anyways. But they do read and respond to PMs. Mostly. And when they get around to it. And if you're obviously not a troll. Or they recognize your name. Etc.

So, got a question? Simply PM them. The forums, as we all know, are a joke in how they are organized and moderated. The devs know this too. Which is why they would rather reply in PMs because it limits the scope of their discussion, if you will. No 100 page threads to slog through.

Thanks for this I will pm

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Post by grimgryphon on Jun 15, 2015 2:03:18 GMT

Post by Dewderonomy on Jun 15, 2015 2:16:09 GMT

Post by dodgy on Jun 15, 2015 3:01:37 GMT

Post by Dewderonomy on Jun 16, 2015 0:07:02 GMT

Post by dodgy on Jun 16, 2015 1:33:45 GMT

Post by grimgryphon on Jun 16, 2015 1:58:26 GMT

Post by dodgy on Jun 16, 2015 2:26:10 GMT

Post by Sicherdraht on Jun 16, 2015 16:31:57 GMT

Post by Dewderonomy on Jun 17, 2015 1:05:21 GMT

Post by The Inside Track on Jun 17, 2015 17:06:25 GMT

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