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Post by chodekiller on May 27, 2016 18:32:30 GMT
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Post by nemolives on May 28, 2016 19:09:09 GMT
No you didn't; At Kickstarter you promised BUY TO OWN. You said the add on store would be only for vanity items, and that the sale of future episodes would fund their own development. You weren't going to be hosting major servers, except for item data, it was supposed to be peer to peer (like Elite Dangerous etc). But then again, to Forbes, Richard Garriott also said this;
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR GAME DOES NOW, HNNNGH. Minus the exclamation marks, because why use any quality of life improvements the genre made, eh?
You undisciplined fools; why did you let yourself drift from your initial model so, so badly?!. And does it need to be pointed out that YOU STILL HAVE THE INITIAL BUY TO OWN PRICE TOO. People only put up with F2P currencies, which no matter how you spin it, this is what you have, when there ISNT a Buy-to-Own Price on top. So your Add On Store sales aren't enough? Maybe your model of soaking mainly the rich wasn't that wise, eh? Now where do you think the Premium Currency sales are going to come from, when everyone new has already been gated out? The only audience you have left ARE the store purchasers. At this point you're just squeezing them even further!
God, it kills me to see this, it really does. I genuinely am grateful for the experiences these people have given me in the past, but they've screwed this up so badly it's staggering. At this point I don't even care if it puts them all out of work, it's going to collapse anyway if you don't bite the bullet and change your funding model entirely. You're never, ever going to survive until Episode 2 whether we bad mouth you here or not. The only way you survive, in a market we kept TELLING YOU hates this kind of funding is if you throw your own personal fortunes in, because you're not getting any more money from anyone new.
Meanwhile you have the usual financially abused in their forums saying "I can't wait to give you my money!" Those are exactly the sort of people you SHOULDN'T be listening too! You know they're never going to criticize you, no matter how much you hit their wallets.
Jesus fucking christ it's depressing and enraging.
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Caliya
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Post by Caliya on May 28, 2016 19:32:15 GMT
all I can say is, lmao and yes, we freakin' told you so. Idiots. lmao
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Post by grimgryphon on Jun 1, 2016 0:06:55 GMT
ROTFL
Looks like the pledges in the marketplace are staying unsold longer and longer. I guess the whales can't afford to buy many more of them. They're tapped out. lol
If you're thinking of going back, wait a month. You should be able to get one for a dollar. :-)
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Post by nemolives on Jun 1, 2016 8:36:53 GMT
ROTFL Looks like the pledges in the marketplace are staying unsold longer and longer. I guess the whales can't afford to buy many more of them. They're tapped out. lol If you're thinking of going back, wait a month. You should be able to get one for a dollar. :-) Could be they're tapped out, could also be that they are coming to realise they can't make a profit and so aren't investing any more; I believe quite a few wanted to speculate thinking the market would follow the early MMO trend many of them experienced in UO... where some get nostalgic about the PvP or socialising, for others it was the opportunity to feel like a financial big shot again. I've kept this article bookmarked since 2003, because it was fascinating then and still is now, but the reasons why have changed, and this is one area where Portalarium noticed; They stated at some point during early development they were fully aware people wanted to spend real life cash around the virtual economy, and were determined to do it directly and cut out the middleman. In this they're just following the industry standard, indeed the f2p market grew out of analysing the first wave of MMOs and their grey markets, and realising there were roughly 5 reasons they could do it themselves so much better, and thus take that cash for themselves; The producers of the game have the benefit of higher trust, security and player sympathy than random Joe Blow on the net, they can integrate sales more efficiently and fairly into the game's own world, and they can do it at a discount because they control the production flow. And it's those last two where Portalarium really, truly messed up. They kept trying to apply a limited access, huge cost model to a genre that is no longer as young and limited as Ultima; it's not 1997-2004 now, if you want virtual real estate, there are hundreds of games now you can go and get a castle in for just a few dollars. Still, they're more up to date than the players who fell for the rares trading idea being pushed; they seem to think it's the dawn of the MMO again and that there's going to be a vibrant community whose only game would be Shroud, so they'd value the rares just as ridiculously as they did in mid period UO ... and perhaps now they're realising it's not going to happen, it never would be the same, and you're not going to be selling those accounts as well as you thought, eh? Portalarium seemed to realise this, because they have gone all in for the High End Hobbyist Dollar. It was a stupid decision from the point of view of audience take up, and quite how they're so financially struggling they have to introduce a Premium currency is beyond me... but at least they understood the market they were aiming for. The players purchasing accounts don't seem to have got it though. It's like time stood still for them.
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Post by Caliya on Jun 1, 2016 14:23:22 GMT
"Our analysis shows us that Add On Store item sales will not be sufficient." Business plan? Naw. Let's see how well store items do, then we'll decide if we go full tilt P2W. Oh but wait. "Crowns are all matters of convenience, not power." Who is he kidding? "Crowns can be earned in game, no player will ever be required to purchase them, making them purely a time saver and convenience." And yet, we all knew it was there. So....
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