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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Feb 14, 2016 9:51:01 GMT
I have been absent of late, I lost my internet access due to "planned maintenance" but here in Oz that just means they fucked something up right good. So I've had some time to think. Also it has come to my attention that Rune_74 has been banned from various Shroud of the Avatar resources due to accusations of his involvement here on this Forum, even though as far as I can see there is no Rune_74 account registered here.
I saw a Shroud of the Avatar forum alternate accuse Rune of posting here, that was over on the Shroud of the Avatar forum. The burden of proof is so incredibly small for Portalarium because that is all it takes, they can seemingly ban anyone for anything, including, simply an accusation of talking to me.
I am going to take this away from Portalarium. InsaneMembrane's accounts are to be rolled up and removed. AvatarAcid will be cut back to MineCraft only things moving forward. As for this forum, I am now out, the forum is yours and I will leave it up to you. You all have a few days to decide what you wish to do, so feel free to chat here or start a PM group about it and let me know what you decide either to just kill it or to have me transfer ownership into one of you.
From now on when they ban people, they will have to use their own reasons and they will no longer have me to blame. Obviously I'm not stepping away due to Rune's ban, I've been trying to back off this stuff for some time now. You all know why. If not, go read my last two blog posts again more carefully this time.
Good luck. IM
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Post by dodgy on Feb 14, 2016 10:03:16 GMT
I have been absent of late, I lost my internet access due to "planned maintenance" but here in Oz that just means they fucked something up right good. So I've had some time to think. Also it has come to my attention that Rune_74 has been banned from various Shroud of the Avatar resources due to accusations of his involvement here on this Forum, even though as far as I can see there is no Rune_74 account registered here. I saw a Shroud of the Avatar forum alternate accuse Rune of posting here, that was over on the Shroud of the Avatar forum. The burden of proof is so incredibly small for Portalarium because that is all it takes, they can seemingly ban anyone for anything, including, simply an accusation of talking to me. I am going to take this away from Portalarium. InsaneMembrane's accounts are to be rolled up and removed. AvatarAcid will be cut back to MineCraft only things moving forward. As for this forum, I am now out, the forum is yours and I will leave it up to you. You all have a few days to decide what you wish to do, so feel free to chat here or start a PM group about it and let me know what you decide either to just kill it or to have me transfer ownership into one of you. From now on when they ban people, they will have to use their own reasons and they will no longer have me to blame. Obviously I'm not stepping away due to Rune's ban, I've been trying to back off this stuff for some time now. You all know why. If not, go read my last two blog posts again more carefully this time. Good luck. IM So ummm are we going to hang out somewhere else?
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Post by dewderonomy on Feb 14, 2016 18:37:41 GMT
I like you, IM, and I get your frustrations, but make up your mind, man. This going back and forth is getting old.
If you think they'll stop using you as a reason, they won't, nor should they; this forum is a major reason people became more outspoken, because they had a place not only to see a differing opinion but to voice their own, as well. It gave them a mindset that they are the investors, after all, but more importantly the fans, and they can speak out against whatever they want; this is a two-bit developing studio, not a tyrannical police state.
If you don't want to rebrand this place, then don't, but rest assured any community - be it a forum or teamspeak or anything else - that we go to will continue spreading the word, either aggressively or nonchalantly. I don't much talk about SotA anymore outside of a few jokes here and there, and when using them as a case study on what not to do during relevant conversations. But the damage is done; they won't get above Mixed, which is the death knell of a game on Steam. A lot of those reviews will flip negative at launch/final wipe/early access/whatever they wanna' call it. They'll look to blame everyone but themselves.
That includes you. And if it's "investors" that hate you now for what you did in the past, they're going to keep hating on you because, again, the damage is done.
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Post by calico on Feb 14, 2016 21:38:55 GMT
I just saw this post, I don't think you should feel responsible for them banning anyone. They are a bunch idiots over there who see the edg of the cliff.
I can certainly see the getting tired of facing the stupid that is shroud. Though I have to ask do they deserve you backing off?
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Feb 14, 2016 23:37:15 GMT
Mind made dewd. I'm done.
Last post. I will respond to PMs.
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Post by dodgy on Feb 15, 2016 1:27:22 GMT
Mind made dewd. I'm done. Last post. I will respond to PMs. Well you don't want to game or hang so just tear the site down. Why leave it up if you feel that strong? Fuck it. Get rid if all of it
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Post by bblackstone on Feb 17, 2016 1:36:18 GMT
Mind made dewd. I'm done. Last post. I will respond to PMs. Well you don't want to game or hang so just tear the site down. Why leave it up if you feel that strong? Fuck it. Get rid if all of it I completely get it IM. Youve done a great job of trying to make them uphold the virtues but there is nothing you can do to change the ill virtues of the devs. Its done. For your own sake do what Dodgy suggests. Hard to let go of something we all believed in but it is what it is and that's never going to change. Good luck with your future endeavors... Pull the plug... You dont owe anyone anything!
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Post by Mordecai on Feb 17, 2016 2:58:32 GMT
I completely get it IM. Youve done a great job of trying to make them uphold the virtues but there is nothing you can do to change the ill virtues. Its done. For your own sake do what Dodgy suggests. Hard to let go of something we all believed in but it is what it is and that's never going to change. Good luck with your future endeavors... Pull the plug... You dont owe anyone anything! Fixed for accuracy.
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Post by calico on Feb 17, 2016 15:23:04 GMT
I completely get it IM. Youve done a great job of trying to make them uphold the virtues but there is nothing you can do to change the ill virtues. Its done. For your own sake do what Dodgy suggests. Hard to let go of something we all believed in but it is what it is and that's never going to change. Good luck with your future endeavors... Pull the plug... You dont owe anyone anything! Fixed for accuracy. I'm sorry but you let those shits off to easy. Sketchy as all hell and trying to protect their work by hiding the truth. (In case anyone didn't find out what MOrdecai removed it was any mention of the ill virtues of the devs)
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Post by titsup on Feb 17, 2016 16:17:30 GMT
There are more ill virtues involved here than just on the part of the devs.
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Post by calico on Feb 17, 2016 16:43:38 GMT
There are more ill virtues involved here than just on the part of the devs. Agreed, but to say they have done nothing wrong is BS. They control how a lot of this went down.
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Post by Mordecai on Feb 18, 2016 3:05:50 GMT
I never said that the devs have done nothing wrong, just that... There are more ill virtues involved here than just on the part of the devs. What I removed was the specificity.
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Post by fossil on Feb 18, 2016 15:08:13 GMT
Rebrand or kill it just my thoughts.
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Post by grimgryphon on Feb 20, 2016 3:08:47 GMT
I'll create a server on Discord if anyone is interested.
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