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Post by fossil on Feb 10, 2016 18:38:04 GMT
Sorry but I think people should think about this before replying sometimes. I've had lots of people argue with me over a long period of time about the difference between the two on the online world.
To me you can't become friends with someone on the Internet because todo so I BELIVE you need to have some sort of physical action together that goes outside of the virtual world. People may have good arguments to this point but for all purposes just cuz your having a drink with a buddy while playing a game and him doing the same isn't a real physical action. Even though doing the same thing in real life is basically the same thing.
The reason I say this because it's a lot harder to con a person in real life in the process of becoming a friend. Vice versa it's pretty easy to lie your face off online and get away with it. This is where a physical activity prevents the so called metagame of virtual world's to come into play.
People will argue this to no end and you will never get me to see it the other way. Relationships get created everywhere and with people that don't mesh. Just because you have a relationship with an individual doesn't mean you have to like them. In the real world you could hate your boss but you still have a relationship. He's just not your friend.
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Post by calico on Feb 10, 2016 18:44:25 GMT
But...we are friends aren't we?
NO, I think you are right, you don't really know anyone you are talking to on the net. I wouldn't trust anyone too much to be honest.
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Post by Caliya on Feb 10, 2016 18:54:54 GMT
There are people at the Sota forum I dislike greatly, but my best guess is, if we met in person, we'd probably get along just fine. People act different behind anonymity (just look at IM and AvatarAcid). People over there also have alts. We can put on certain personas where there are no real consequences. People can't get up and smack you on the head online. But that's when they turn to doxxing (apparently).
In real life, I have multiple clients that love me and my work. So much so, I have an international business. But you'd never know it by the crap I write here, half the time.
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Post by zincturtle on Feb 10, 2016 20:29:09 GMT
It's far easier to bait and troll on anonymous forums, it's true.
As far as online gaming relationships go, I've met many people from my guilds over the years, in many games, in person. Sometimes, though, all we get is voice chat. Rarely, all we get is text chat.
I think there's a progression of familiarity (IRC->Mumble->Skype) but to me, that's all acquaintances.
True friendship, to me, requires physical presence and a lot of time.
In RL relationships, I always use the vacation babysitter test. (nanny's aside)
Would you let that acquaintance or friend babysit your kids while you went on a week long vacation? No? Not a friend.
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Post by calico on Feb 10, 2016 20:34:29 GMT
It's far easier to bait and troll on anonymous forums, it's true. As far as online gaming relationships go, I've met many people from my guilds over the years, in many games, in person. Sometimes, though, all we get is voice chat. Rarely, all we get is text chat. I think there's a progression of familiarity (IRC->Mumble->Skype) but to me, that's all acquaintances. True friendship, to me, requires physical presence and a lot of time. In RL relationships, I always use the vacation babysitter test. (nanny's aside) Would you let that acquaintance or friend babysit your kids while you went on a week long vacation? No? Not a friend. You are not coming near my kids. |
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Post by zincturtle on Feb 10, 2016 21:13:55 GMT
See, that's the right attitude.  |
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Post by dewderonomy on Feb 11, 2016 3:02:26 GMT
brb, gotta' let my wife know we were acquaintances.
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Post by fossil on Feb 11, 2016 3:06:02 GMT
buddy your not my friend guy
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Post by myrcello on Feb 11, 2016 6:50:02 GMT
The question is - why?
Lets take arms, legs away.
Is the person still enough to become your friend? He does not have the same body language options as we have left.
Lets go further -- we all loose our eye sight and the ability to hear. Based on our arguments here we have less communication options left then this internet. So we should not be able to make friends.
How sad for them who truly have this handicap if our claim is correct.
It is all about feeling trust and adjusting to the communication tools.
Watch this:
It is a advertisement ad the end - but i like it sitll.
I remember the times we had letter writting friends.
I had Susan behind the wall in the DDR.
We did become good friends when the wall dropped.
No need we had to meet in person. Just word and post office.
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Post by dodgy on Feb 11, 2016 8:38:08 GMT
The question is - why? Lets take arms, legs away. Is the person still enough to become your friend? He does not have the same body language options as we have left. Lets go further -- we all loose our eye sight and the ability to hear. Based on our arguments here we have less communication options left then this internet. So we should not be able to make friends. How sad for them who truly have this handicap if our claim is correct. It is all about feeling trust and adjusting to the communication tools. Watch this: It is a advertisement ad the end - but i like it sitll. I remember the times we had letter writting friends. I had Susan behind the wall in the DDR. We did become good friends when the wall dropped. No need we had to meet in person. Just word and post office. Liasing with communists Mycello? Black Listed |
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Post by Caliya on Feb 11, 2016 13:15:31 GMT
Liasing with communists Mycello? Black Listed What are you saying here? |
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Post by calico on Feb 11, 2016 14:04:11 GMT
Why did you put a video of Bob up?
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Post by dodgy on Feb 11, 2016 14:04:48 GMT
Liasing with communists Mycello? Black Listed What are you saying here? Written communication with an East German at the height of the Cold War. Very suspicious. But Cal perhaps you and Tarsallion are artifacts from another time? |
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Post by Caliya on Feb 11, 2016 14:08:01 GMT
Written communication with an East German at the height of the Cold War. Well except the people behind that wall weren't allowed to escape. It didn't mean they were communists, but they were controlled by them. I don't see what that has to do with Myrcello. Myrc is a pretty interesting guy. |
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Post by dodgy on Feb 11, 2016 15:01:47 GMT
Written communication with an East German at the height of the Cold War. Well except the people behind that wall weren't allowed to escape. It didn't mean they were communists, but they were controlled by them. I don't see what that has to do with Myrcello. Myrc is a pretty interesting guy. Mycello had a penpal behind the wall cal |
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Post by fossil on Feb 11, 2016 15:08:02 GMT
The question is - why? Lets take arms, legs away. Is the person still enough to become your friend? He does not have the same body language options as we have left. Lets go further -- we all loose our eye sight and the ability to hear. Based on our arguments here we have less communication options left then this internet. So we should not be able to make friends. How sad for them who truly have this handicap if our claim is correct. It is all about feeling trust and adjusting to the communication tools. Watch this: It is a advertisement ad the end - but i like it sitll. I remember the times we had letter writting friends. I had Susan behind the wall in the DDR. We did become good friends when the wall dropped. No need we had to meet in person. Just word and post office. And this is part of the twisting I've dealt with before. There will always be special considerations to the problem. You can't sweep everything under one umbrella perfectly. In the end your friends are what you see them to be. But the question I ask in a time of need can these people help you? Or are they the ones that need your help? |
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