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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Dec 21, 2015 3:39:31 GMT
It's become so commonplace to attack the person and not their views I fear this behavior has overtaken all of Novia, and the Abyss as well. Character Assassination. I think we should be careful with the term Character Assassination. It is one that papa Port tends to enjoy tossing around also. Is it character assassination, if it is true? Isn't it more like a "character spotlight" in that case? I would tend to define character assassination as using a basis of untruth, where as I will certainly parody things but the truth should always be readily available. Is this character assassination? insanemembrain.wordpress.com/2013/09/17/shroud-of-the-avatar-mods-smash-users/What about this? insanemembrain.wordpress.com/2015/08/17/themo-still-toxic-on-shroud-of-the-avatar-forum/I'm certainly not making shit up in those articles. I might be a bit crass and stylishly troll, but with the screen shots alone there you don't even really need to read my opinion or words on the matter to know what took place was actually took place. My aim would have been to inform everyone that there are clearly separate rules for different people. I may call for the release of the unprofessional moderators, and the hiring of professional people with no leg in the game. Can you call me an Assassin for that? |
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Post by Joviex on Dec 21, 2015 8:09:46 GMT
Notice he has 28 likes, all from the usual suspects. Those fucking whales have their heads so far up Portalarium's ass they are a permanent part of Starr Long's colon now. I have never been happier that I was able to unload that pile of shit. Even the guy who bought it from me has already sold it off. He lasted 2 months. He said the community was the #1 reason he walked away. The likes were done after he edited it to post his decision to not make a specific trash talking board. I liked it as well. I think that thread exemplified exactly what would happen in an unmoderated guild trash talk forum. I think it also exemplifies that this forum has made an impact. He was/is actively seeking to make something akin to this, over there. Why would it not work? They just proved why: They have a huge amount of assclowns there, cant play nice, regardless of open or closed, or whatever. We are actually more adult over here, with all the other ppl who were so "toxic" over there, and it's hilarious to think that is not how they see it. They are bickering children, with a forum, and a lot of money invested, and have at it, I found some really nice people to converse with, unabated, unlike your shitty tunnel vision web forum. You ever really note how many ppl log into and participate (actively, not a post a week) ? Not as many as they'd like. The post with chris's bullshit from steam, love how it got zero reaction after he boasts about how amazing their internal team structure is in terms of communication. Yeah, so good that either you are ignorant to your own production and didn't know Chris was an asshat telling ppl to fuck off, or you are a liar. Not good either way. Hypocritical at best. |
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Post by Caliya on Dec 21, 2015 9:58:20 GMT
I think it also exemplifies that this forum has made an impact. He was/is actively seeking to make something akin to this, over there. This. Only thing is, the people that could or would have engaged the most are here, and some of us banned. lol They wanted to imitate it here, because yes it really does work. I liked what Tarsilion said, that I wouldn't need his account to be heard, I'm heard better over here. lol |
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Post by Caliya on Dec 21, 2015 10:44:19 GMT
I fear this behavior has overtaken all of Novia, and the Abyss as well. Character Assassination. I think we should be careful with the term Character Assassination. It is one that papa Port tends to enjoy tossing around also. Is it character assassination, if it is true? Isn't it more like a "character spotlight" in that case? I would tend to define character assassination as using a basis of untruth, where as I will certainly parody things but the truth should always be readily available. Is this character assassination? insanemembrain.wordpress.com/2013/09/17/shroud-of-the-avatar-mods-smash-users/What about this? insanemembrain.wordpress.com/2015/08/17/themo-still-toxic-on-shroud-of-the-avatar-forum/I'm certainly not making shit up in those articles. I might be a bit crass and stylishly troll, but with the screen shots alone there you don't even really need to read my opinion or words on the matter to know what took place was actually took place. My aim would have been to inform everyone that there are clearly separate rules for different people. I may call for the release of the unprofessional moderators, and the hiring of professional people with no leg in the game. Can you call me an Assassin for that? I think calling someone on their behavior, as in a blog article, is entirely appropriate and not character assassination. If you attack the person and not the subject, on the forum itself, that is off topic, trolling, and character assassination. No, you are not an assassin for those articles. |
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Post by calico on Dec 23, 2015 4:22:37 GMT
I find it funny that other long time backers quit and don't get that little sob story from Dallas.
They get moderated for far less then that damn troll.
Note how Baron Draconis says he rarely gets moderated? Maybe that should be a hint there are problems as he trolls and gets threads shut down all the time.
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Post by grimgryphon on Dec 23, 2015 4:41:18 GMT
I find it funny that other long time backers quit and don't get that little sob story from Dallas. They get moderated for far less then that damn troll. Note how Baron Draconis says he rarely gets moderated? Maybe that should be a hint there are problems as he trolls and gets threads shut down all the time. You look at that dude cross-eyed and you get reported. Big talker but really a coward and a pussy. |
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Post by titsup on Dec 23, 2015 4:43:17 GMT
Baron F is a the hero we need.
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Post by dewderonomy on Dec 23, 2015 7:58:30 GMT
Baron F is a the hero we need. But not the one we deserve. |
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Dec 23, 2015 9:21:53 GMT
Maybe Envy could be the hero...
*ducks*
No really, he just left the SotA forum due to moderation, he does claim it didn't have anything to do with the BMC thread he trolled(I think) but it would seem it has something clearly to do with the BMC.
I would like to know the truth to this story especially since he has quoted moderation. I got my start as IM due to the lack of and poor quality moderation, so this puts Envy on our friendly IFF on at least this particular issue.
Come on Envy. Bring some truthiness over here for a change and let us know wtf is going on. Eventually if we keep letting everyone know what is going on, some professionals will need to join the moderation team and reform those gits.
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Post by titsup on Dec 23, 2015 11:05:41 GMT
He did say in his departure thread it has nothing to do we the game and he is 100% behind the developers and the game. He also said he is not selling any of his accounts.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Dec 23, 2015 11:15:40 GMT
He did say that...
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Post by Caliya on Dec 23, 2015 13:21:56 GMT
He did say in his departure thread it has nothing to do we the game and he is 100% behind the developers and the game. He also said he is not selling any of his accounts. He stands to lose a crapton of money if he badmouths the game. |
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Post by dewderonomy on Dec 24, 2015 0:57:35 GMT
He did say in his departure thread it has nothing to do we the game and he is 100% behind the developers and the game. He also said he is not selling any of his accounts. But... no one plays the game? How will he PvP if not on the forums since no one logs in? |
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Post by titsup on Dec 24, 2015 1:00:15 GMT
Look, I'm sure he's fine with the totally awesome and completely active DoD forum. That guy Those guys are really having a laugh about this one over there. They are super active and really a titter about this, no really. You saw how all the DoD members spammed that BMC thread that was shut down right, I we spent all day flooding that thread. I hope this game is ready for the havok I we will cause. |
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Post by dewderonomy on Dec 24, 2015 1:10:59 GMT
Look, I'm sure he's fine with the totally awesome and completely active DoD forum. That guy Those guys are really having a laugh about this one over there. They are super active and really a titter about this, no really. You saw how all the DoD members spammed that BMC thread that was shut down right, I we spent all day flooding that thread. I hope this game is ready for the havok I we will cause. I AM LEGION! |
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jan 4, 2016 3:19:38 GMT
Look, I'm sure he's fine with the totally awesome and completely active DoD forum. That guy Those guys are really having a laugh about this one over there. They are super active and really a titter about this, no really. You saw how all the DoD members spammed that BMC thread that was shut down right, I we spent all day flooding that thread. I hope this game is ready for the havok I we will cause. I AM LEGION!  Yeah, fits DoD. |
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Feb 9, 2016 9:08:06 GMT
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Post by Caliya on Feb 9, 2016 12:20:41 GMT
Is this related to Envy, or just a continuation of their behavior regardless if he left or not? No one around to keep them in check because both Koldar and Mystic gave warnings in that thread. Wagons have circled for protection of assholes. |
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Feb 9, 2016 14:03:53 GMT
Yeah, EnvyII
Why? Why not just come back and post under Envy if it is him.
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Post by Caliya on Feb 9, 2016 14:07:05 GMT
Yeah, EnvyII Why? Why not just come back and post under Envy if it is him. Am I missing something? He was warned about a ban for fighting with them, I thought? Or is he an alt in BMC and creating controversy for the sake of publicity? Help me understand lol |
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Feb 9, 2016 14:18:21 GMT
He quit the SotA forum. So why the fk is he back with an alt?
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Post by Caliya on Feb 9, 2016 14:19:41 GMT
He quit the SotA forum. So why the fk is he back with an alt? It was my impression that most of them that "left" were actually there with alts. Don't know which one is Envy, but Ezekiel's behavior fits. |
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Feb 9, 2016 14:21:43 GMT
Lol. I'm guessing the one that is Envy's is..... EnvyII
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Post by Caliya on Feb 9, 2016 14:25:51 GMT
Lol. I'm guessing the one that is Envy's is..... EnvyII doh, I wondered why you typed that in a previous post. Totally did not see anyone with that name in that thread. But then, I didn't pay attention to every post. |
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Feb 9, 2016 14:28:09 GMT
Ah you are right actually. Looks like Junior Moderator Mystic used his mommy card and hid Envy's post.
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Post by calico on Feb 9, 2016 14:28:44 GMT
I really hate people using alts on the forums...they honestly use alts to argue the original topic they create.
I guess moderation does play a role in that in that you can get banned for speaking your mind.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Feb 9, 2016 14:31:43 GMT
I will bet that is most of the reason they are now charging $5 for access to that ocean of whales now also.
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Post by Caliya on Feb 9, 2016 20:30:22 GMT
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