Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Aug 13, 2015 16:07:15 GMT
You know, I said before that an equal hand in forum moderation was my main concern about how this was handled.
But the reality is, these people don't care about truth. They will outright lie about Standup Corner, knowing some people can't read it or verify it. They (cartodude and Duchess Wyldemane) claimed that POT development was reduced to one developer they hired special. Anyone in their right mind, who really has an inkling of game development, knows this could not be true without looking at Standup Corner.
When I proved that was not true, and that the range of people working on POTs was pretty astounding, what did they do? Try to use the truth against me.
These folks don't want the truth. Duchess Wyldemane (the perpetual loose cannon) went and threw a hissy fit (poor thing /sarcasm) that I divulged something that's in their public newsletters, people who are working on POTs. Why? Because she was flat out wrong, didn't want to admit it, and instead of admitting it and apologizing, what does she do? Move to have me banned over the truth.
Funny thing is, I didn't even post that information at the Shroud forum. She came searching for me. lol
They want to produce a game that's built on a house of cards. They wonder why the community is fighting?
Certain people in this forum accuse me of moral righteousness, as if that's a bad thing?
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Post by titsup on Aug 13, 2015 16:47:35 GMT
You know, I said before that an equal hand in forum moderation was my main concern about how this was handled. But the reality is, these people don't care about truth. They will outright lie about Standup Corner, knowing some people can't read it or verify it. They (cartodude and Duchess Wyldemane) claimed that POT development was reduced to one developer they hired special. Anyone in their right mind, who really has an inkling of game development, knows this could not be true without looking at Standup Corner. When I proved that was not true, and that the range of people working on POTs was pretty astounding, what did they do? Try to use the truth against me. These folks don't want the truth. Duchess Wyldemane (the perpetual loose cannon) went and threw a hissy fit (poor thing /sarcasm) that I divulged something that's in their public newsletters, people who are working on POTs. Why? Because she was flat out wrong, didn't want to admit it, and instead of admitting it and apologizing, what does she do? Move to have me banned over the truth. Funny thing is, I didn't even post that information at the Shroud forum. She came searching for me. lol They want to produce a game that's built on a house of cards. They wonder why the community is fighting? Certain people in this forum accuse me of moral righteousness, as if that's a bad thing?
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Post by nemolives on Aug 13, 2015 16:58:17 GMT
I wasn't using righteous as an insult, but as a positive by the way...
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Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Aug 13, 2015 17:08:16 GMT
I wasn't using righteous as an insult, but as a positive by the way... It wasn't you. Someone used it in a flame
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Aug 13, 2015 17:43:40 GMT
If the only thing someone has to pick on is IM's spelling, then we're good to go lol Also if that is the only thing one can find to come at me... you all lack a great deal of imagination
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Post by dewderonomy on Aug 13, 2015 20:24:18 GMT
That and his Michael Jackson nose.
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Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Aug 20, 2015 19:54:45 GMT
Just an update: Today I was informed I've been permabanned from the forums, with no explanation other than I "broke community rules." It never referred me to a single post nor a warning.
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Post by fossil on Aug 20, 2015 20:32:13 GMT
Just an update: Today I was informed I've been permabanned from the forums, with no explanation other than I "broke community rules." It never referred me to a single post nor a warning. I'm just going to say I'm not surprised but FUCK THAT! Would you post the email they sent?
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Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Aug 20, 2015 20:52:04 GMT
First letter:
I regret to inform you that your account has been locked for transgressions against our Forum Rules. This ban, which will continue until the SotA Leads have had a chance to review your account activity, is the result of receiving multiple warning points within a 24 hour period. In addition, it has been brought to our attention that you are sharing Founder/Dev+ information outside of the Shroud of the Avatar Community. During this time, you will be unable to post new messages, reply to existing threads, and access private forums such as the Founders and Dev+ areas.
Also, I must inform you that, based on your previous forum activity, and the previous notice you received stating that any further transgressions against the forum rules will result in the recommendation that your forum permissions be permanently suspended, your account is being reviewed for possible permanent restrictions from the Shroud of the Avatar forums.
If you have any questions about this action, please let me know. Otherwise, I will notify you of our decision regarding your forum access once our review is complete.
FireLotus Shroud of the Avatar ~ Community Manager
Second Letter:
I regret to inform you that your forum history has been reviewed by the team and it has been determined that, at this time, it is prudent to continue the restrictions on your SotA Forum Account. This decision was the result of repeated violations of our Forum Rules with no improvement or change in behavior.
These forum restrictions do not impact your in-game access, and you can still log into Shroud of the Avatar with your Adventurer pledge either through Steam or directly through the SotA Launcher. You will also continue to receive our weekly updates unless you elect to opt out of our mailing list.
If you have any questions or concerns, you can reply to this support case.
FireLotus Shroud of the Avatar ~ Community Manager
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Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Aug 20, 2015 20:58:07 GMT
It's beyond stupid really. I asked what were the offenses in that 24 hour period of time, and never got a response. Only these, and she sent me a screenshot of Standup Corner rules.
Whatever posts I allegedly made that were bannable, I have no idea (truly, and I'm not playing dumb). I posted the Standup Corner names/projects on this forum but removed them.
Personally I don't care to post over there anymore anyway. These statements of "no improvement or change in behavior" are equally ridiculous. Look at the people in that forum that take sideswipes at each other constantly.
Well you know the story of how it goes when you dare tell the truth about Portalarium. This came the same day I posted the thread to Starr's ridiculous post.
They all read this forum. So do most of the people who violate rules over at the forums but get away with it because they're worth a lot of money to Port.
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Post by Mordecai on Aug 20, 2015 23:58:19 GMT
First letter:I regret to inform you that your account has been locked for dissent. This ban, which will continue until the SotA Leads have had a chance to come up with an excuse for a perma-ban, is the result of made up warnings. In addition, it has been brought to our attention that you are reporting people for sharing Founder/Dev+ information inside of the Shroud of the Avatar Community. These people will not be moderated, and instead we will ban you to cover up their transgressions against the forum rules, much like when we banned Insane Membrane. During this time, you will be unable to post new messages, reply to existing threads, and access private forums such as the Founders and Dev+ areas. Also, I must inform you that, based on your previous forum activity, and the previous fictional notice you received stating that any further transgressions against the forum rules will result in the recommendation that your forum permissions be permanently suspended, your account is being reviewed for possible permanent restrictions from the Shroud of the Avatar forums. If you have any questions about this action, fuck off. I will ignore them anyway. Otherwise, I will notify you of our decision regarding your forum access once our review is complete. FireLotus Shroud of the Avatar ~ Community Manager Second Letter:I regret to inform you that your forum history has been reviewed by the team and it has been determined that, at this time, it is prudent to continue the restrictions on your SotA Forum Account. This decision was the result of repeated fictional violations of our Forum Rules with no improvement or change in behavior. These forum restrictions do not impact your in-game access, and you can still log into Ultimate Avatar with your Adventurer pledge either through Steam (<3 Steam) or directly through the SotA Launcher. You will also continue to receive our weekly updates until you elect to opt out of our mailing list. If you have any questions or concerns, you can reply to this support case, but they will be ignored. FireLotus Shroud of the Avatar ~ Community Manager This kind of blatant disregard for truth bothers me a lot. Luckily, I was able to fix the messages.
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Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Aug 21, 2015 0:46:09 GMT
This kind of blatant disregard for truth bothers me a lot. Luckily, I was able to fix the messages.
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Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Aug 21, 2015 1:03:02 GMT
So this evening, I received this email, that I was warned last September (a YEAR ago??). I disputed all of these warnings. They obviously don't remove them even if they are disputed. There is no way for me to see what I said, and what the topic was. Only this list.
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Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Aug 21, 2015 1:07:28 GMT
The only inappropriate language I ever used on that forum was the word "hell." And if I remember correctly, it was a joke. Nothing remotely close to language I've used here.
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Post by dewderonomy on Aug 21, 2015 1:25:44 GMT
TIL: Caliya behaves inappropriately, and is fun at parties.
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Post by Mordecai on Aug 21, 2015 2:57:06 GMT
Is that really a warning for "Derailing Threads" or have my eyes deceived me?
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Aug 21, 2015 2:59:24 GMT
So what is the go Caliya? They are trying to justify their point about a general ban by dragging shit in from last year? lulz. Fucking tragic. Still banned also?
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Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Aug 21, 2015 4:14:39 GMT
So what is the go Caliya? They are trying to justify their point about a general ban by dragging shit in from last year? lulz. Fucking tragic. Still banned also? Permabanned, look at the previous posts and letters in this thread
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Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Aug 21, 2015 4:17:50 GMT
You know, with more than 1300 posts (of the ones that weren't deleted "archived," and 2200+ likes, I'd say if those were all legitimate points against me, that's pretty damn slim for that many posts.
And think about it, I'm almost at 700 posts here and I've only been here a few weeks. So how many posts of mine have they deleted in 2 years? Geesh
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Aug 21, 2015 4:19:29 GMT
So what is the go Caliya? They are trying to justify their point about a general ban by dragging shit in from last year? lulz. Fucking tragic. Still banned also? Permabanned, look at the previous posts and letters in this thread Shit! I missed a bit when I was down over the past few days, and this forum I've noticed doesn't always take me to the most recent unread post in a thread, grr. Catching up.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Aug 21, 2015 4:24:59 GMT
Wow. Time to log into word press.
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Post by Sicherdraht on Aug 21, 2015 4:41:26 GMT
Mi'lady you are a victim of posting critical thinking, they will only accept brain washed myrmidons, kiss-ups and lap dogs. Otherwise pledge ten thousand bucks and they will look the other way. Any Criminal can be easily bribed.
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Caliya
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Post by Caliya on Aug 21, 2015 5:02:42 GMT
I think I rubbed Starr the wrong way by essentially calling him a liar about how they spend their development time. lol (powders Starrs lil bald head)
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Aug 21, 2015 5:33:11 GMT
Founders Developer Blog An exclusive, read-only collection of Developer Blogs, Design Documents and an Art Gallery Depot for Founder level backers. All content within this section is subject to change and may not be copied or redistributed elsewhere.
Was that even there before? never noticed.
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Post by Sicherdraht on Aug 21, 2015 5:54:46 GMT
I think I rubbed Starr the wrong way by essentially calling him a liar about how they spend their development time. lol (powders Starrs lil bald head) Essentially if he didn't answer the question by saying development time has been spent on urban sprawl, he's not being honest. I'm sure he waxes his head, powders won't stick to it.
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Post by Sicherdraht on Aug 21, 2015 5:59:42 GMT
Founders Developer BlogAn exclusive, read-only collection of Developer Blogs, Design Documents and an Art Gallery Depot for Founder level backers. All content within this section is subject to change and may not be copied or redistributed elsewhere.Was that even there before? never noticed. Aye, I believe that has been there for quite some time, never noticed anything special in it though. Are you sleeping in France Bro?
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Aug 21, 2015 6:05:24 GMT
Founders Developer BlogAn exclusive, read-only collection of Developer Blogs, Design Documents and an Art Gallery Depot for Founder level backers. All content within this section is subject to change and may not be copied or redistributed elsewhere.Was that even there before? never noticed. Aye, I believe that has been there for quite some time, never noticed anything special in it though. Are you sleeping in France Bro? Sleep is for the weak! I have a blog article I am finishing
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Aug 21, 2015 6:10:32 GMT
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Post by Sicherdraht on Aug 21, 2015 6:15:56 GMT
Aye, I believe that has been there for quite some time, never noticed anything special in it though. Are you sleeping in France Bro? Sleep is for the weak! I have a blog article I am finishing Excellent. I'll look forward to see who or what gets the National Blade.
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Post by Mordecai on Aug 21, 2015 13:17:02 GMT
Ok, so Fire Lotus shouldn't ban you without warning, or maybe without three warnings, but it looks like you have a few more than three warnings (19 to be exact). FWIW, did you feel like any of those prior warnings were justified? Also, do you still believe that the last two that led to your ban were non-existent? I suspect that Fire Lotus would be willing to share with you the two warnings that led to your ban. Even if she hasn't yet, keep trying, and she eventually will.
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