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Post by Mordecai on Jul 26, 2015 13:26:21 GMT
You can't really blame Joviex HWB. Everyone here (including you I assume) was a staunch supporter of SotA at one point or another.
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Post by Housewife British on Jul 27, 2015 1:15:44 GMT
I can understand that some are average fanboys, but these two took it to new levels. I say that Bubonic was the instigator in most of the hardcore faboyism, telling everyone that had a different oppinion than what port wanted that they were wrong, When Bubonic got into deep water arguing over something that shouldn't be an argument, Joviex would always come to save him and join into telling people off.
And for the irc thing, I take it that you aren't very experienced with it, you can download irc clients to join irc servers, that's what you should be doing to enter the shroud irc chat.
For the people changing bullshit, for one that's not how you win a war and it's pretty much confirmed that humans actually rarely change, they will do stuff to appeal to their new agenda instead. They still are useless and have that fucked up drive within them no matter how much they pretend to be something else, who can tell when it will come out again. But I've noticed that we aren't really trying to do anything here anyways but gossip about the new soap opera topic, maybe for you all it doesn't matter if you friend every fake tranny that shows you attention in this situation.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 27, 2015 1:39:22 GMT
Hehehe, trying to hide your identity behind irc when connected with something like mirc is a bit of a bitch these days. I can't just wingate off someone else. I had a proxy for a bit but every time WtF read the logs he would z-line my entire service I checked recently though and the z-line is no longer in place... So I could go back for a bit and mess around if need be. I'm not saying they changed, wrong choice of words, but their point of view on SotA may have changed to the point where they are no longer arguing in direct opposition to those that think like us. Agreed, we're a bit toxic here and players still active in the community are a bit shy about getting involved. I did hope we could have a bit of a more useful role to play in the community as a whole, but maybe it isn't to be yet! Or at all... Any suggestions, I'm always open.
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Post by dodgy on Jul 27, 2015 2:47:17 GMT
Toxic . Hardly.
We just talk broad range of topics. Some times we don't want to respond to bullshit posts from people thinking they are creating dialogue with thought out discussion. Rest of the time we just talk shit.
There's plenty of worthy stuff in here. If you don't like it fine. It's not meant to be this great intellectual forum. It is what it is.
But everyone who has posted here open and honest has been welcomed. Raviscus said nothing of meaning or substance and was treated in kind.
Themo walked in here and we had a good discussion.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 27, 2015 2:53:39 GMT
Yeah, the place is here now. We can do what we want with it!
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Post by Sicherdraht on Jul 27, 2015 3:44:53 GMT
Watching the pledge rate at late, I suspect port has issues making rent, utility bills, payroll, and a peskey thing called insurance, much less creating a quality game. Let anyone offer anything from there, anybody. We now have a Trolls head, it's like watching paint peel over the years.
Starr does nothing more than report numbers to his boss, his boss is doing little more than rubbing his bald head.
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Post by Housewife British on Jul 27, 2015 6:06:40 GMT
The derp admin of ultimacodex set zlines on certain ranges of ip masks, I was the cause of that as they don't have the knowledge to defend against what I was doing. A lot of the free proxy's fall into those ranges. I was only using a certain ip range's within my botnet to connect to there, knowing the ip range masks would likely be banned, zlined, klined is the reason for doing so. Shortly after my shenanigans started I noticed zlines being put in place. I usually keep root on a couple box's just to connect to irc to chat through them, proxy's are fairy unrealiable. I would get a bnc if you cannot obtain root and want to go on there protected, hidden.
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Post by Bubonic on Jul 27, 2015 12:37:43 GMT
I've said this many times now, Jizzbonic and his ass hat side kick Joviex would sit on irc and hardcore fanboy. AAAAAhhhhhahaahahahahaahahah fantastic! You must be Chaos, the loser I embarrassed over on the other site. You know, the guy that desperately tried to find some proof of my fanboyism, failed miserably, resorted to posting prepubescent nonsense under other users' names, then vanished without a trace? Man, this is too good. Like insane said, everything I said is on the level. Always has been - I'm the first to criticize when they fuck up, and the first to defend when someone spouts bullshit about them that isn't true. (Like I assume you were, but there's no way of knowing because you're hiding behind a different name.) That isn't being a fanboy, sorry. But, CONGRATULATIONS! On losing any small scraps of respect and dignity you might have scraped up by starting to post under a new name. Laterz!
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Post by dodgy on Jul 27, 2015 13:11:59 GMT
Hardcore forum pvp
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Post by Mordecai on Jul 27, 2015 13:22:06 GMT
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Post by Caliya on Jul 27, 2015 16:02:29 GMT
I'm really not sure why Joviex has been slammed as a fanboy. I must have a very narrow view. He used to like virtually all my posts and stick up for me. Most of my posts are on the very critical side. He did contribute programming time, and wanted the game to succeed. But I wouldn't call that a fanboy. What am I missing?
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Post by Bubonic on Jul 27, 2015 21:43:58 GMT
I'm really not sure why Joviex has been slammed as a fanboy. I must have a very narrow view. He used to like virtually all my posts and stick up for me. Most of my posts are on the very critical side. He did contribute programming time, and wanted the game to succeed. But I wouldn't call that a fanboy. What am I missing? You aren't missing anything, other than the lack of brains from the source. Joviex isn't a fanboy, never was. Neither one of us was, ever. This putz was obviously made an ass out of by one or both of us, most likely for posting inaccurate bullshit or raging personal attacks (just like he does here). Like a true 1337er, he never got over it, and labeling us "fanboys" was the only thing that made him feel better. Looks like I shamed him into silence again, that's twice now. Wonder what name he's gonna post under this time?
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Post by Housewife British on Jul 27, 2015 23:22:33 GMT
lul The immigrant comes out taco bell to reveal himself, baited good. I got all the data on you that I would ever need to 100% prove that you are a fanboy. All you have is your immigrant genetics that makes you a compulsive liar. Keep talking nonsense and trying to hide the fact that you are a useless pansy from yourself. Most of the people that have been around you talk about you behind your back and you haven't even caught onto that yet. Maybe you are to busy being the janitor in the lighting department. Keep running like your family ran the boarder.
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Post by Housewife British on Jul 27, 2015 23:24:57 GMT
border* silly auto correct.
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Post by Housewife British on Jul 27, 2015 23:35:10 GMT
I'd like to also point out that he pretty well just admitted in his statement that Joviex and him were doing the sort of thing I talk about. Thank you kind returd, now back to changing light bulbs.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 28, 2015 1:04:59 GMT
I'm really not sure why Joviex has been slammed as a fanboy. I must have a very narrow view. He used to like virtually all my posts and stick up for me. Most of my posts are on the very critical side. He did contribute programming time, and wanted the game to succeed. But I wouldn't call that a fanboy. What am I missing? You aren't missing anything, other than the lack of brains from the source. Joviex isn't a fanboy, never was. Neither one of us was, ever. This putz was obviously made an ass out of by one or both of us, most likely for posting inaccurate bullshit or raging personal attacks (just like he does here). Like a true 1337er, he never got over it, and labeling us "fanboys" was the only thing that made him feel better. Looks like I shamed him into silence again, that's twice now. Wonder what name he's gonna post under this time? Are you going to pack up also Bubonic? There aren't too many people left who are speaking with any sense over there at all...
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Post by Housewife British on Jul 28, 2015 1:18:04 GMT
And you think that carebear is one of the sense speakers? Sometimes I wonder if you people even pay attention to anything but the latest forum post? or even want to do anything but gossip for that matter. two dirty fanboy supreme's right here, that had a major role in shaping shroud into the shit pile it is today and Insane wants to suck their ballz.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 28, 2015 1:24:39 GMT
And you think that carebear is one of the sense speakers? Sometimes I wonder if you people even pay attention to anything but the latest forum post? or even want to do anything but gossip for that matter. two dirty fanboy supreme's right here, that had a major role in shaping shroud into the shit pile it is today and Insane wants to suck their ballz. You are pretty fucking thick sometimes aren't you HW. I am sure at one point both Joviex and Bubonic pointed out things where I was wrong. I didn't rage on them for months afterwards though. I dont know if you read that forum any longer, but you'd know Bubonic isn't sucking anyone's dick over there if you were, it is quite the opposite. If you can't provide screen shots or evidence of your beef with someone, nobody here is going to take it seriously.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 28, 2015 1:30:21 GMT
See. Good post. Shows real thought processes at work. On our side.
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Post by Bubonic on Jul 28, 2015 1:41:28 GMT
Are you going to pack up also Bubonic? There aren't too many people left who are speaking with any sense over there at all...[/quote] Nope, not going anywhere. I've got my reasons. I may never end up actually playing, but I intend on sticking around for the duration.
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Post by Housewife British on Jul 28, 2015 1:43:45 GMT
The problem with that is, no one here has the capability to actually do something with my data, I would just be posting it so you all can gossip about it, that isn't what I'm about. A little spoiler alert on my data, all the stuff that I went out of my way to collect to prove peoples motifs, I might be releasing one day but in no way will it be here. The main reasons that I am holding off is because I know all the stuff that I will release will directly identify who I am, if the developers look into it enough. i am currently waiting for the release of the game, to see if it's playable or not to decide my next move, if it isn't I'll have no hesitation to make a fool out of your beloved Bubonic, Joviex and many others. You probably won't understand that people actually have set goals, objectives over a period of time and that some people have the determination to carry things like this out. Patience is a virtue or something and I'll wait until the time is right. I have nothing to prove to anyone here, I am hitting my marks right where I want them.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 28, 2015 1:44:01 GMT
Are you going to pack up also Bubonic? There aren't too many people left who are speaking with any sense over there at all... Nope, not going anywhere. I've got my reasons. I may never end up actually playing, but I intend on sticking around for the duration. [/quote] Excellent
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 28, 2015 1:46:03 GMT
The problem with that is, no one here has the capability to actually do something with my data, I would just be posting it so you all can gossip about it, that isn't what I'm about. A little spoiler alert on my data, all the stuff that I went out of my way to collect to prove peoples motifs, I might be releasing one day but in no way will it be here. The main reasons that I am holding off is because I know all the stuff that I will release will directly identify who I am, if the developers look into it enough. i am currently waiting for the release of the game, to see if it's playable or not to decide my next move, if it isn't I'll have no hesitation to make a fool out of your beloved Bubonic, Joviex and many others. You probably won't understand that people actually have set goals, objectives over a period of time and that some people have the determination to carry things like this out. Patience is a virtue or something and I'll wait until the time is right. I have nothing to prove to anyone here, I am hitting my marks right where I want them. Well, the only players I would concern myself with would be the ones actually driving the game through their donations. They also drag their friends along in with them, those are the people we need to be concerned about. I do hope to see your data one day, it sounds interesting and I don't care where you release it. Just make sure you come back and give us all a link so we can "gossip" about it, lulz.
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Post by Housewife British on Jul 28, 2015 2:23:16 GMT
Here is the main issue that I have towards Bubonic and Joviex. At the start of this shroud community, Bubonic and Joviex were huge supporters of anything the developers wanted. On the level that Bubonic would go out of his way all day and night to tell people they were wrong about everything, he would come into civil conversations being that know it all fanboy that could do no wrong. Joviex would than come in when things got heated to back him up at any cost. This didn't just happen to me but to many others, I have tested this theory. I have talked to them both in many different ways, in which they most likely didn't realize, just to confirm their point of view for future reference. Not so much Joviex but a lot of people in the community don't even like being around Bubonic, even the other mega fanboys have had enough of his attitude, which I have conversations of confirming this too. So after a while of him being an ass hat, trying to be the mega fanboy that shroud wants him to be, he started making content for the game, which got rejected most of the time. He than started getting pissed off that he wasn't getting the recognition that he thought he deserved. I believe the reason that he never got any awards was due to how he acted on irc, being rude and disruptive even as a fanboy, he is quite childish with no thought or method put into his fanboyism. The developers obviously seen that, pretty much why Bubonic got tossed aside aftry his try hard attempt of being the perfect slave fanboy. After he realizes this he starts rebelling, pissed off that he didn't get something that he thought he deserved. Now he is playing the rebellion role, complete opposite of what he was before. He is trying to lie about what he was at the beginning of development, like he is ashamed of it or is just a liar in general. Now my problem with this is that, I don't forgive very well, I have standards which include no scummy liars, no trash barrel people trying to pretend to be something they aren't, stuff like that, he's a straight up liar. If he came out and said, hey I'm sorry for being such a fanboy asshole ruining the development by supporting shit ideas at any cost, I might get a long with him but that isn't the case, he's trying to hide something that he obviously was. I don't know what kind of people you have in your life but these type of people don't last long within my world. If I'm protesting about something, I want strong knowledgeable people standing by me, not sketchy douche bags that pretend to be different things. He's the enemy here, one of the people who pushed half the crap in to the game to be what it is and you welcome him with open arms now that he's "someone different", that's something I don't understand the logic in. That's why I will win in the end, cutting down the traitors in disguise, while everyone else is gossiping about the next Pot or some other pointless fanboy bullshit.
Also maybe if Bubonics light house was more creative and didn't look like a baby used their shitty diaper on the living room wall it would of got accepted and he'd be less mad.
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Post by Caliya on Jul 28, 2015 2:40:59 GMT
And you think that carebear is one of the sense speakers? Sometimes I wonder if you people even pay attention to anything but the latest forum post? or even want to do anything but gossip for that matter. two dirty fanboy supreme's right here, that had a major role in shaping shroud into the shit pile it is today and Insane wants to suck their ballz. First, it's offensive you would slam someone for their race. What, you one of those old white men with the pointy white hood? That's how you're behaving. 2nd, you totally contradict yourself. A person can't be both a fanboy and criticize SotA and run them into the ground. They are mutually exclusive.
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Post by Caliya on Jul 28, 2015 2:47:15 GMT
Well, weren't all of us fanboys in the beginning? I mean, I was genuinely excited and interested. But as development took turn after turn in directions I thought majorly sucked, of course I began speaking out against their decisions. I never once saw Joviex stick up for Portalarium in a year and more that I was posting there. I never really knew Bubonic, and if he bashed me, it was inconsequential enough to even remember.
Joviex is highly intelligent, from what I've seen him say and post, including private PMs to me. Again, I don't know Bubonic at all really.
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Post by Membrane_on_Vacation on Jul 28, 2015 3:00:44 GMT
I was a fanboy at the begining. Guilty as sin. I'm still an Ultima fanboy, and I kind of still wish I could be a SotA fanboy, and I am also pretending to be someone I'm not... Housewife, you must hate me too I am not saying Bubonic or Joviex were upset that something was rejected by port, because I dont know that story. I will say something to that line of thinking though as I can imagine what was taking place. Portalarium sold us on a massive platform of crowdsourcing inclusion. We could make money back. Perhaps some people had the skills out there to code and model, like Joviex and Bubonic. Perhaps they get together and make some things of quality at least to what is in the game or better. Perhaps they backed the game above what they would have done because they were sold crowdsource inclusion from Lawyerrstarr. We all know how that turned out, the Devs are not really doing much on the crowdsource front. They can't, they don't have the ability to facilitate, manage, and monitor a community of crowdsourcers. I am almost 99.999 percent(Enterprise D warp speed) positive the reason they would have been upset at something is because what they submitted never even got looked at, or was better than something already there and rejected. Of course if Bubonic or Joviex want to address this they can correct that line of thought.
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Post by Housewife British on Jul 28, 2015 3:22:36 GMT
For the mentally handicapped, the time when he was a fanboy and than criticized were totally different times, thought that was pretty obvious but ok. derp? lul
And yea the typical I watch to much american propaganda white hat phrases are cute.
There is also a difference between being a fanboy and than doing what Bubonic, Joviex did, they took it to the extreme from the beginning. I feel like you people can't read, understand or remember anything. I guess only mad fanboy topics get the recognition here. Them Pot's bru so exciting.
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Post by Housewife British on Jul 28, 2015 3:33:14 GMT
I've also been doing this way longer than any of you even formed any hate for shroud, the stuff I speak of is before anyone of you ever really started giving a shit. So really how can you tell me how someone is when you haven't witnessed the majority of anything?. Now that you people actually show a sign of being in the anti game, it's at a point where Bubonic and Joviex are playing mr nice guys, especially after me being on them after so long, calling their shit, I've been calling them out long before this place even existed. Of course these didlers are talking nice to a girl on the internet too, that's how the internet works, especially with mexicans that fuck anything that has 4 limbs.
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Post by Caliya on Jul 28, 2015 3:34:27 GMT
HWB, since I never followed Bubonic or Joviex, it has nothing to do with reading comprehension. I mean, you know, it's not possible to understand and remember something I never read.
Talking about how fucked up POTs are is more interesting to me, than listen to you cry about Bubonic and Joviex.
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